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by telero
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: Question Regarding Eform Form 2 for 07/02 FFL SOT
Replies: 2
Views: 510

Re: Question Regarding Eform Form 2 for 07/02 FFL SOT

Not an FFL/SOT, but my understanding is that a Form 2 is a notification, not application for registration. Once submitted, you're fine to do whatever. If you were to try to transfer it on a form 3/4, the form 2 would processing need to have been completed so that the item is in the registry and able...
by telero
Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: New to the forums and will like to know the process involved in purchasing a form 4 rifle
Replies: 6
Views: 1090

Re: New to the forums and will like to know the process involved in purchasing a form 4 rifle

2 buy from a private seller out of state Option 2 is the worst way, but probably most guns for sale are this way. It requires two tax stamps and 3 waiting peroids. The seller must file a form 4 to transfer the gun to a dealer. The dealer then files a form 3 to transfer to another dealer in your sta...
by telero
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Silencer Talk
Topic: Transporting and using a suppressor in a different state
Replies: 3
Views: 653

Re: Transporting and using a suppressor in a different state

poikilotrm wrote: You only need permission to transport SBR’s, SBS’s, machineguns, destructive devices, and AOWs.
Not needed for AOWs either.
by telero
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:04 am
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: NFA Branch e-mail address for 5320.20?
Replies: 2
Views: 1428

Re: NFA Branch e-mail address for 5320.20?

I'm going to tell you that it's NFAFax@atf.gov, but I should have told you to go read the form. It's literally in the instructions. Page 3, instruction b. This downloadable form https://www.atf.gov/file/11361/download
by telero
Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:41 am
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: Quick SBR engraving question
Replies: 22
Views: 9730

Re: Quick SBR engraving question

Can't do the slide, you can do the exposed portion of the barrel though. Can do the slide per ATF Ruling 2013-3 https://www.atf.gov/file/4881/download "The manufacturer, importer, or maker must legibly and conspicuously place on the frame, receiver, barrel, or pistol slide (if applicable) his/her o...
by telero
Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:58 am
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: Quick SBR engraving question
Replies: 22
Views: 9730

Re: Quick SBR engraving question

Individuals(non-licensees) can not get marking variances, only licensees can. Looks like the law says that a maker can get a marking variance. It may just be a matter of policy that they don't. I'm curious if or how many non-licensees have tried? The Director may, not must, authorize variances. 27 ...
by telero
Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:20 am
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: S&W M&P 15-22 SBR -- How short would you go?
Replies: 24
Views: 5939

Re: S&W M&P 15-22 SBR -- How short would you go?

These look great, I wonder if slide fire or a bump fire stock works with the SBR length. Is the pistol variant of the 15-22 available for purchase? 15-22P isn't manufactured any more. They seem to be going for around $600-700. Less expensive to buy a 15-22 rifle, SBR it, and have the barrel chopped...
by telero
Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm
Forum: Silencersmithing Forum
Topic: Form 1 e-file...In Process ?
Replies: 8
Views: 827

Re: Form 1 e-file...In Process ?

There isn't a pending state for an e-form. It will be submitted until it's either approved or disapproved.
by telero
Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:41 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: NFA question
Replies: 6
Views: 949

Re: NFA question

ATF 2011-4 was put out because of the Contender issue, but is not limited to Contender. From the ruling/court: "a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches o...
by telero
Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:43 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: SBR question
Replies: 11
Views: 1538

Re: SBR question

Doesn't matter if you EVER put a short barreled upper on it or not. It bears the magic matrix designation that allows you to do so. Agreed. As a matter of arguable fact, when an NFA'ed lower is possessed, (used, carried, presented, or moved about the country) in a non NFA configuration, it is, from...
by telero
Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:55 pm
Forum: Silencersmithing Forum
Topic: 80% recievers
Replies: 19
Views: 1439

Re: 80% recievers

Besides my 80% stuff, I have 2 factory firearms with no serial numbers. One has no identifying marks of any kind - no manufacturer, no proof marks, no s/n, etc. PRE-GCA. Everyone SHOULD be seeing a pattern here...... The pattern is not that the firearms are pre GCA, it's that they are not legally r...
by telero
Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Silencersmithing Forum
Topic: 80% recievers
Replies: 19
Views: 1439

Re: 80% recievers

Since bound books became a requirement it has been a requirement for an FFL to log into their bound book any firearms that are kept overnight(regardless the reason it is overnight....which is also the reason why a non-FFL can't work on firearms). In order to meet ATF requirements you need to record...
by telero
Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:28 pm
Forum: Silencersmithing Forum
Topic: 20 gauge to 9mm conversion project.
Replies: 29
Views: 3078

Re: 20 gauge to 9mm conversion project.

If you permanently fix the liner to the barrel, you should be able to cut the barrel from 18" to 16" since it will now be a rifled barrel and not a shotgun. Sadly no, it started life as a shotgun, so forevermore, it must be legal by shotgun standards. Seems like it would be ok. Definitions of rifle...
by telero
Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:08 am
Forum: Silencer Talk
Topic: Legality of form 1 SD Tactical solvent trap suppressor
Replies: 29
Views: 5309

Re: Legality of form 1 SD Tactical solvent trap suppressor

Read the instructions on the F1, you must be 21 to manufacture a firearm. Not true. It doesn't say anywhere that you have to be 21 on the form, or in Federal law, to submit a form 1. Question 10(d) asks if you are under 21. The form also asks for a separate sheet with an explanation for any yes ans...
by telero
Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:30 pm
Forum: Silencer Talk
Topic: Should E-Filing a Suppressor take 7 months?
Replies: 12
Views: 681

Re: Should E-Filing a Suppressor take 7 months?

How did he do that on a form 4? It is still down. Seems fishy. I have read somewhere (can't remember where) that if an eform 4 was in draft status when form 4s were taken down, that it might possible to still submit the form at a later time. It seems that form 4 was taken down by making new forms u...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:11 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

Ah yes, back to the original question after a slight (but interesting, I hope) derail. As far as your conversation with the examiner, did you specifically say it was 80% and finished or unfinished? Or did you even mention it's actual state? What was the actual state? Did you state the type of firear...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:27 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

When the ATF differentiates between something it is noted, there is NOTHING differentiating a licensed manufacturer produced or homemade produced firearm in the quoted text. Neither the handbook citation you provided or the instruction on the form 1 say that the manufacturer information or serial n...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:00 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

The handbook does not say... If using an "existing firearm produced by a licensed manufacturer enter that information as follows". But the ATF does differentiate between an maker and a manufacturer. It says If using an "existing firearm" and ends there, no delineation between unmarked homemade gun ...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:56 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

I need to inform the ATF about this so they can specify in the regs that a homemade firearm isn't considered to be an "existing firearm". A homemade firearm is an existing firearm, it just doesn't have any marking requirements. It does have a maker (unlicensed), and you could say it has a null seri...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:43 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

Then how do you explain the quote from the ATF above? Is the homemade firearm not an "existing weapon". I will bet 100$ that the ATF will say yes. A firearm is a firearm by definition not by markings. The existing firearm, when homemade, wasn't required to have markings since it wasn't created by a...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:35 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

AlabamaPaul wrote:
Even if the item were to be sold, there is no requirement for a homemade firearm to have any engraving. It is only strongly suggested...
Fair enough, strongly recommended, but not required by federal law.
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:34 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

Note.....it doesn't say a homemade firearm is exempt from these requirements, therefore they follow these requirements. Not exempt from NFA items, but not required for homemade title 1 firearms. So no reason to engrave anything on a homemade receiver prior to the form 1. Just a requirement to choos...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:12 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

If it is starting out a firearm then you place that firearms information in the blocks, no different than if he started with a DPMS/KAC etc...lower receiver. That's the thing...that 80% home completed firearm information is not be required to be on the firearm (until it is an NFA item, or will othe...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:09 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

From the form 1: i. Serial Numbers and other Markings. If an existing firearm is being modified into an NFA firearm, enter the existing serial number of the firearm into item 4g and the name and address of the original manufacturer into item 4a. Do not Alter or Modify the Existing Serial Number . If...
by telero
Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:06 pm
Forum: NFA Weapons
Topic: form 1 an 80%lower sbr
Replies: 41
Views: 10607

Re: form 1 an 80%lower sbr

Why would you have to put a serial number and mfg information on it before the form was submitted? You don't have to have a serialized tube before you form 1 a silencer.