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Ok I got a big lathe out in the shop but my little one in the house. I woudl like to find a chuck that has a over sized bore hole and longer then the norm twice as long would work great to allow for the easy chucking of barrels with the block attached. factory ones are 3 1/8 across the face and 2" deep. Does such a animal exist?
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rogerme wrote:Ok I got a big lathe out in the shop but my little one in the house. I woudl like to find a chuck that has a over sized bore hole and longer then the norm twice as long would work great to allow for the easy chucking of barrels with the block attached. factory ones are 3 1/8 across the face and 2" deep. Does such a animal exist?
I once saw one that Bison was selling, including a 6 jaw ( price of 4 Aston Martin Rims ) that I dreamed of having ...
under heading of 'delusions of competence and sanity' for the Atlas 618. :)

Your having access to a large commercial lathe means that you could machine
your own, an oversized cylinder with 8, two per row, large bolts for centering.
The exact name of the jig eludes me but it is something like a Cat's ---- (?).
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Perhaps. I'm guessing you're talking about a mini-lathe? The most common sizes are 80mm OD with a 16mm bore (yours), 100/22mm and 125/30mm.
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue ... the-Chucks
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I usuallly bore the chuck to match the lathe bore but if you dont loose the integrity of the check, go a little bigger.
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Historian wrote: ...Your having access to a large commercial lathe means that you could machine
your own, an oversized cylinder with 8, two per row, large bolts for centering.
The exact name of the jig eludes me but it is something like a Cat's ---- (?).
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My English friends call them "bell" or "ring" chucks. No idea what they're called in America, never seen one in the flesh.

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I made something similar, only with 4 screws that could be chucked in my regular chuck. But today I got hold of a busted 100mm 4-jaw, one of the screw retainers was broken. 20 bucks if I could fix it, if not I could just bin it. Shouldn't take me more than an hour to fix plus an hour to make a back plate :D
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BeerWolf, thank you for the pictures and I have added
to my machining information data base.

The photo finally triggered my synapses: CATHEAD!

<< http://www.google.com/search?q=lathe+ca ... 6&bih=1039 >>

<< http://www.angelfire.com/d20/lathework/page12.htm >>

<< http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/at ... 000979.jpg >>

This is a close version of what I made.

<< http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/ ... nished.jpg >>

I have made some small ones for experimenting with odd shaped pieces that needed
some front threading.

Thank you again.
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"tail spider", lot of guys make them , i have not made one for my mini lathe as i still need to get an inside threading bar
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Ok a few pics are kind of what I am seeking. The through hole on my small lathe is just under 1 inch. This is not the part I have issue with.

This is what I am looking for with space BEHIND the jaws for the handgun barrel blocks to reside in. Meaning a chuck a bit longer then normal with a "hollow" core for the barrel block. Seems the only drawback to using my little lathe for threading is this issue.

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That's a simple spider with soft jaw inserts.You build them not buy them.
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rogerme wrote:...This is what I am looking for with space BEHIND the jaws for the handgun barrel blocks to reside in. Meaning a chuck a bit longer then normal with a "hollow" core for the barrel block....
How much room do you need behind the jaws?

You could simply make a ring chuck long enough to clear anything you would want to fit behind the clamping screws, but you could end up with so much overhang that accuracy and deflection might be a problem.

Supporting the muzzle end on the tail stock (appropriately protected) could help somewhat.

You could also make a custom backing plate for you current chuck with a counter bored section that spaced it out from the spindle, but it probably have to be disassembled for each part, and it still might have overhang problems.

Just throwing things against the wall at this point, let me know if anything sticks. :D
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BeerWolf wrote:
rogerme wrote:...This is what I am looking for with space BEHIND the jaws for the handgun barrel blocks to reside in. Meaning a chuck a bit longer then normal with a "hollow" core for the barrel block....
How much room do you need behind the jaws?
Just enough to fit the barrel block form a handgun barrel in.
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Here's a better picture of what I was talking about.
You can make the inside space as large as you need, within rational limits.
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Thanks to BeerWolf's above historical Bell-Chuck information
I remembered an interesting and instructive video that I saw posted once
but cannot recall when. In the off chance some have not seen it
here is the reference on a bell_chuck style fixture that was used to chamber a Remington
action but has multiple applications:

<< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErVOUVszFjY >>

Also for future information of a design that serve as a model
of an easily machined accessory, if one were so inclined and too parsimonious
to puchase:

<< http://www.muzzlecouplingsonline.com/ho ... ull-barrel >>
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