Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

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Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

Post by fivefivesixphoto » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:39 pm

How vital is it that a Form 1 can length matches what is listed on the form?

ie: I listed 7" but can turns out to be closer to six or closer to 8.

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Post by john.t.little1 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:46 pm

it can go shorter not longer if i remember right
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Post by T-Rex » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:46 pm

Essentially, what you write is what it needs to be.

Careful consideration to the following:

You CAN NOT go longer. To do so would constitute the need for another tax stamp.

If you do, in fact, go shorter, you will need to notify the ATF for a correction on your Form 1.
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Re: Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

Post by fivefivesixphoto » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:50 pm

T-Rex wrote:Essentially, what you write is what it needs to be.

Careful consideration to the following:

You CAN NOT go longer. To do so would constitute the need for another tax stamp.

If you do, in fact, go shorter, you will need to notify the ATF for a correction on your Form 1.
Ok, so it's pretty important. I'm just trying to decide if I want a 6" can or and 8" can and wasn't sure if being an inch off either way would be a big deal.

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Post by Jt.kline19 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:03 pm

fivefivesixphoto wrote:
T-Rex wrote:Essentially, what you write is what it needs to be.

Careful consideration to the following:

You CAN NOT go longer. To do so would constitute the need for another tax stamp.

If you do, in fact, go shorter, you will need to notify the ATF for a correction on your Form 1.
Ok, so it's pretty important. I'm just trying to decide if I want a 6" can or and 8" can and wasn't sure if being an inch off either way would be a big deal.
You can have the Form 1 corrected, it just requires that you write them a letter stating what needs to be corrected.
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Re: Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

Post by Bendersquint » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:45 pm

Jt.kline19 wrote:
fivefivesixphoto wrote:
T-Rex wrote:Essentially, what you write is what it needs to be.

Careful consideration to the following:

You CAN NOT go longer. To do so would constitute the need for another tax stamp.

If you do, in fact, go shorter, you will need to notify the ATF for a correction on your Form 1.
Ok, so it's pretty important. I'm just trying to decide if I want a 6" can or and 8" can and wasn't sure if being an inch off either way would be a big deal.
You can have the Form 1 corrected, it just requires that you write them a letter stating what needs to be corrected.
Correct but you can not have the form amended to a LONGER length, you can only amend a shorter length.

Longer length equals increased performance in the eyes of the ATF and requires a new stamp.


OP - File the form for the LONGEST length you think it will end up and if it is shorter simply write a letter to the ATF and ask them that the NFRTR be updated to reflect the correct length of the can.

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Post by Jt.kline19 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:38 am

:mrgreen:
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Re: Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

Post by T-Rex » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:05 am

Jt.kline19 wrote:Well I just had a form amended for this reason, the weapons specialist ( which is what the NFA branch called them I believed) called me after they received my letter and told me to resubmit a paper form 1 and the would cancel my previous form and transfer the tax to the new form. It was pretty simple.
Your can ended up being longer or shorter than the originally filed Form 1?

Did you speak to Specialist Ken Mason?
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Post by Bendersquint » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:11 am

T-Rex wrote:
Jt.kline19 wrote:Well I just had a form amended for this reason, the weapons specialist ( which is what the NFA branch called them I believed) called me after they received my letter and told me to resubmit a paper form 1 and the would cancel my previous form and transfer the tax to the new form. It was pretty simple.
Your can ended up being longer or shorter than the originally filed Form 1?

Did you speak to Specialist Ken Mason?
I hope they approved longer, because if so that will set a precedence they will NOT like at all!

I know a certain lawyer that will eat that up!

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Post by Jt.kline19 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:15 am

Damn I knew that would bring a lot of questions I tried deleting it before that lol. but yes they amend it for longer. The specialist was named Janis Fields. They told me they would transfer the tax to the new form 1 I sent in.
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Post by Bendersquint » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:42 am

Jt.kline19 wrote:Damn I knew that would bring a lot of questions I tried deleting it before that lol. but yes they amend it for longer. The specialist was named Janis Fields. They told me they would transfer the tax to the new form 1 I sent in.
Woohoo, forwarding this tot he lawyer!

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Re: Can length VS Length Listed on Form 1

Post by Jt.kline19 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:54 am

Bendersquint wrote:
Jt.kline19 wrote:Damn I knew that would bring a lot of questions I tried deleting it before that lol. but yes they amend it for longer. The specialist was named Janis Fields. They told me they would transfer the tax to the new form 1 I sent in.
Woohoo, forwarding this tot he lawyer!
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