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Re: First form 1 build log and a few questions

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I don't have pictures but I got all of the baffles formed (about 45*) and they are ready to be final drilled. I'm still undecided on if I want to clip or port them. I have a 1/16th carbide burr and was thinking about doing two small clips on some of the baffles. And I am thinking about doing three ports on the baffles, but instead of drilling them using the burr to make a hole on a angle and switch directions on every baffle.

Any thoughts?
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Re: First form 1 build log and a few questions

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Rich93ds wrote:I don't have pictures but I got all of the baffles formed (about 45*) and they are ready to be final drilled. I'm still undecided on if I want to clip or port them. I have a 1/16th carbide burr and was thinking about doing two small clips on some of the baffles. And I am thinking about doing three ports on the baffles, but instead of drilling them using the burr to make a hole on a angle and switch directions on every baffle.

Any thoughts?
Porting would be a mistake if you built the suppressor as planed.Hemispheric baffles have there own qualities as is.
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Re: First form 1 build log and a few questions

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Capt. Link. wrote:
Rich93ds wrote:I don't have pictures but I got all of the baffles formed (about 45*) and they are ready to be final drilled. I'm still undecided on if I want to clip or port them. I have a 1/16th carbide burr and was thinking about doing two small clips on some of the baffles. And I am thinking about doing three ports on the baffles, but instead of drilling them using the burr to make a hole on a angle and switch directions on every baffle.

Any thoughts?
Porting would be a mistake if you built the suppressor as planed.Hemispheric baffles have there own qualities as is.
-CL
I ended up with 45°Ish cones, so I was not sure about the porting and clipping. Also I don't know what baffles need what. All of the parts are at the machine shop so I can't take pictures.
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Re: First form 1 build log and a few questions

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I guess I'll leave a update too. I'm waiting on the muzzle shims and rocksett from brownells. Everything else is at the machine shop. They are doing all of the final drilling, engraving the tube, rounding the edges on the caps and removing the knurling, crowning the bore hole, and sandblasting the tube and caps.

All I will have left on Friday when I get everything back is to cut the spacer, assemble and test fire it before I Rocksett it closed and have it Cerakoated.

I'm still undecided on porting or clipping the baffles
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Re: First form 1 build log and a few questions

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I really really hope wherever you left your suppressor parts is also an 07/02 manufacturer.
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Yes they are
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Rich93ds wrote:I guess I'll leave a update too. I'm waiting on the muzzle shims and rocksett from brownells. Everything else is at the machine shop. They are doing all of the final drilling, engraving the tube, rounding the edges on the caps and removing the knurling, crowning the bore hole, and sandblasting the tube and caps.

All I will have left on Friday when I get everything back is to cut the spacer, assemble and test fire it before I Rocksett it closed and have it Cerakoated.

I'm still undecided on porting or clipping the baffles
I would hold off on using rocksett.Red locktight will do the trick and can be disassembled with some heat.I have never tried to remove rocksett so maybe someone could chime in if it can be removed.
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Rocksett is water soluble and can be removed after soaking in hot water if too much wasn't used... :shock:
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Re: 5.56 build log

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I got everything back from the machine shop today. The only things not done now are cutting the spacer,anodizing, and any porting and clipping. I took some pictures for everyone too.

Now that I have the baffles to the final bore and form what does everyone think about clipping porting them? I don't have a whole lot of internal volume so I'm trying to get as much as I can out of them

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Off topic but they also made 100 charging handles for a customer and he never picked them up. I'm pretty sure they ripped off Rainer Arms design but I got a deal and there are only 99 of these out there now.

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Are we sharing the good deals? :wink:
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1rosta wrote:Are we sharing the good deals? :wink:
Maybe. I have to talk to him. I have friends that asked too
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Will either of these clipping methods benefit me? Will they make it quieter or hurt accuracy? I was searching on the forum and I came across these pictures.

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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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If I we're you I would clip all but the first and last baffle with either a double clip or triple clip it shouldn't hurt accuracy and should reduce the decibels by a few shoot it with no clips and if not satisfied start clipping good luck and post pictures when complete thanks
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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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I was looking at the drawing and layout of everything and if I move the coin baffle within a couple millimeters of the brake I can fit another formed freeze plug. That would leave me with the blast chamber being the area around the brake. Before I cut my spacers I wanted to get some opinions. Would the ninth baffle be beneficial or just take away on internal volume?
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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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Rich93ds wrote:I was looking at the drawing and layout of everything and if I move the coin baffle within a couple millimeters of the brake I can fit another formed freeze plug. That would leave me with the blast chamber being the area around the brake. Before I cut my spacers I wanted to get some opinions. Would the ninth baffle be beneficial or just take away on internal volume?
Keep in mind that you do need that first blast volume in front of your blast baffle.
ALSO You use it on a gas gun so excessive gas-blowback will follow if your fist chamber is to small.

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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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gunny50 wrote:
Rich93ds wrote:I was looking at the drawing and layout of everything and if I move the coin baffle within a couple millimeters of the brake I can fit another formed freeze plug. That would leave me with the blast chamber being the area around the brake. Before I cut my spacers I wanted to get some opinions. Would the ninth baffle be beneficial or just take away on internal volume?
Keep in mind that you do need that first blast volume in front of your blast baffle.
ALSO You use it on a gas gun so excessive gas-blowback will follow if your fist chamber is to small.

Gunny
It's a piston gun. I was just wondering if it would be beneficial to have any extra baffle or more blast chamber
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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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I just picked up everything to anodize all of the titanium. I will be posting progress pictures and everything I used. I'm hoping to get everything except for a test fire done tonight.
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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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I did a form 1 can in titanium with cone baffles ( .30 cal ). Initially I was on the fence about clipping them and ended up clipping them and glad I did.
BIG difference in suppression just by my ear. I have no idea if clipping a freeze plug would yield the same results but clipping does make a difference.
I did all of mine except the blast baffle.

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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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I'm going to clip all but the first and last to start.

I'm in for the long haul tonight. I'm starting the anodizing right now. I'll try and keep this updated

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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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Rich93ds wrote:I'm going to clip all but the first and last to start.

I'm in for the long haul tonight. I'm starting the anodizing right now. I'll try and keep this updated

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Is the watermelon a secret ingredient in the anodizing process?:lol:
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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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fastfire wrote:
Rich93ds wrote:I'm going to clip all but the first and last to start.

I'm in for the long haul tonight. I'm starting the anodizing right now. I'll try and keep this updated

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Is the watermelon a secret ingredient in the anodizing process?:lol:
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We had a hell of a time anodizing everything. It is nothing like the YouTube videos. But I got enough color to prevent the threads galling.

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Re: 5.56 build log update on pg 2

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It's late and I got it finished but I did not take any more pictures. I'll have more tomorrow. I did three rounds of m855 ball with the gas system off in the field where I shoot. I've never heard a commercial suppressor before so I can't say to how quiet it is but I did it without earpro and it was not unpleasant at all. Just the supersonic crack as much as I could tell.

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I'll post more tomorrow.
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