New Ruger baffle

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New Ruger baffle

Post by Rich V » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:23 pm

Ruger has announced they will market a 22 silencer. The baffle is rather unique, resembles a hybrid of a slant baffle and a 60 degree cone. Looks like it was investment cast, even a full CNC machine center would have a tough time making that baffle.

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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by a_canadian » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:40 pm

I'd expect it to meter somewhere about midway between clipped cones and good K baffles.

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Post by Capt. Link. » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:42 pm

Little reason to bring a product to market that won't exceed current designs in some way.I would like to seen it put up against the Dead Air Mask HD22.I think it would be interesting to meter the shot to shot average ,SPL figures along with FRP.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by dagamore » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:43 pm

its ruger, they are not know for making the best, or for breaking new ground, they are know for making a damn good product for a fair price.

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Post by Fulliautomatix » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:24 am

Casting is one of Ruger's mainstay business units: http://www.ruger.com/casting/
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Bendersquint » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:20 pm

Capt. Link. wrote:Little reason to bring a product to market that won't exceed current designs in some way.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by CanOfWhooppass » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:47 pm

dagamore wrote:its ruger, they are not know for making the best, or for breaking new ground, they are know for making a damn good product for a fair price.
The MSRP is up there, if it was $199 I'd agree, but at $459 they better be as good.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by T-Rex » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:48 pm

Bendersquint wrote:
Capt. Link. wrote:Little reason to bring a product to market that won't exceed current designs in some way.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Fulliautomatix » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:54 pm

MSRP is pretty meaningless, but yeah, they are placing themselves amongst some well established players. This is who's out there in the $400+(MSRP) rimfire range.

$599 - SiCo Osprey Micro
$524 - SiCo Sparrow
$499 - Liberty Regulator
$495 - AAC Prodigy
$495 - Bowers USS 22
$479 - AAC Element 2
$475 - Gemtech Outback II-T
$449 - Ruger Silent SR
$440 - TacSol Axiom
$429 - Surefire Ryder 22-A
$425 - PSD Minilith
$419 - SiCo Spectre II
$399 - Griffin Checkmate QD
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Grounded » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:52 pm

Capt. Link. wrote:Little reason to bring a product to market that won't exceed current designs in some way.I would like to seen it put up against the Dead Air Mask HD22.I think it would be interesting to meter the shot to shot average ,SPL figures along with FRP.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by cal50 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:17 pm

It could be worse, think Red Jacket......
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Fulliautomatix » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:55 pm

cal50 wrote:It could be worse, think Red Jacket......
Or cripes, how about JJFU? lol :lol:
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by propeine » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:47 pm

dagamore wrote:its ruger, they are not know for making the best, or for breaking new ground, they are know for making a damn good product for a fair price.
I would partly disagree with this. The RPR is pretty new ground for budget ish mass produced chassis rifle. Savage 110BA is probably the only other in that price range. Those baffles are a pretty big departure from most 22 cans I've seen as well.

The Mark II may not be new ground but it is definitely one of the most successful 22 pistols ever.

Damn good American made product at a good price is accurate though.

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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by curtistactical » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:31 pm

Interesting baffle but I hate castings. I could easily machine that from bar stock on a cnc.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Rich V » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:41 pm

curtistactical wrote:Interesting baffle but I hate castings. I could easily machine that from bar stock on a cnc.
I thought the interior would be difficult/slow to mill out?

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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by ericdraven » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:27 am

Fulliautomatix wrote:MSRP is pretty meaningless, but yeah, they are placing themselves amongst some well established players. This is who's out there in the $400+(MSRP) rimfire range.

$599 - SiCo Osprey Micro
$524 - SiCo Sparrow
$499 - Liberty Regulator
$495 - AAC Prodigy
$495 - Bowers USS 22
$479 - AAC Element 2
$475 - Gemtech Outback II-T
$449 - Ruger Silent SR
$440 - TacSol Axiom
$429 - Surefire Ryder 22-A
$425 - PSD Minilith
$419 - SiCo Spectre II
$399 - Griffin Checkmate QD
my Spectre 2 was 350 dollars
i got my regulator for 400 dollars
got my dead air mask 400 dollars
and silencer shop has the axiom for 344 dollars

i deal with tarheel guns here in nc , scott is nice guy and great prices

competition is good but i have doubts ruger will improve anything , wait and see i guess, but 449 no way

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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Fulliautomatix » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:28 am

That's what I'm saying, MSRP means nothing other than showing where a manufacturer things their product ranks in the market. That is the perceived value. However, the street price is going to be whatever people are willing to pay for it. I think the suppressor market is pretty performance driven. Once the reviews start coming out, then the real price will be determined.

I was able to get a Sparrow for $300 and a Spectre II for $150 last year (both new), and they are both top performing cans.
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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by Historian » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:20 pm

cal50 wrote:It could be worse, think Red Jacket......
Speak about Mickey Mouse designs.

A blast from the past when real men threaded barrels with dies and
pipe wrenches bringing forth game changing models.

Anyone know what really happened to RJ?

Aside from someone playing Sam Cooke's old song in
the background: << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBn5aIfZElE >>

Disappointing and sad.

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Re: New Ruger baffle

Post by curtistactical » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:01 pm

Rich V wrote:
curtistactical wrote:Interesting baffle but I hate castings. I could easily machine that from bar stock on a cnc.
I thought the interior would be difficult/slow to mill out?

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It wouldn't be as bad as looks, a little 3D action on a good 5 axis mill using a ball nose end mill. It would probably take about 10min a baffle to profile the inside. I look at everything from a machinist stand point because I have been machining my whole life, I still work a 40hr a week job running a 5 axis Haas Vf6 on top of running my shop. I like the baffle design but it would be made out of billet if it came out of my shop. Some guys are the Ruger type and some are the Nighthawk custom type, our suppressors are built like the Nighthawks of the suppressor world, its worth the money to some to have a perfect product while others are fine with just okay. :)
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