Running F1 can wet?
Running F1 can wet?
Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.lattin1 wrote:Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
Re: Running F1 can wet?
You can use any sort of medium as you would like to my knowledge.
I have heard of people using KY gel, wire pulling gel, spit, piss, mud hole water, even bacon grease.
I have heard of people using KY gel, wire pulling gel, spit, piss, mud hole water, even bacon grease.
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
Ablative media isn't a silencer part...Hannibalbarca wrote:Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.lattin1 wrote:Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
What's next, any CO2 inside the can must be registered because co2 prevents FRP? Claiming water is a silencer part is absurd.
OP, run it wet. Myself and others do all the time. I use lithium grease, I haven't yet tried wire pulling gel
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
Contrary to recent publishing, from those outside the ATF, there has been no formal change to previous "wipe" rulings/letters. The ATF simply asked 1 Mfr to stop selling their premade "wipes". The Mfr didn't want to push the issue, to court, and possible have a ruling which could ruin it for everyone. They sucked it up and drove on. Wipes are not illegal to replace. I know there are products sold exclusively for use as silencer ablatives. The ATF hasn't shut them down yet.Hannibalbarca wrote:Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.lattin1 wrote:Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
The issue with using it in a Form1 can would be the fact that it raises the pressure and would be untested. Mfr's have the ability to test their designs and, if it fails, they make a revision or specify it's not to be used.
So, use at your own risk
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
I prefer wire pulling gel because I can place it where I want it in my micro can. Water, spit and diet soda are my next favorites mostly based on availability.
Like John says pretty much anything wet will work depending on your tolerance for possible blow-back and cleanup.
Don't pay attention to the background noise.
Like John says pretty much anything wet will work depending on your tolerance for possible blow-back and cleanup.
Don't pay attention to the background noise.
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Brilliant, invent more restrictive rules for yourself that don't actually exist.Hannibalbarca wrote:Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.lattin1 wrote:Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
My only concern about something like wire pulling lube, assuming the suppressor is built well, is corrosion, but since the OP's can is Ti and stainless, no worries, go for it.
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
I just took their ruling to its logical conclusion and I honestly hope they make a definite ruling on this and say it's illegal to run a can wet because then you're manufacturing suppressor parts.yondering wrote:Brilliant, invent more restrictive rules for yourself that don't actually exist.Hannibalbarca wrote:Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.lattin1 wrote:Just wondering what y'alls thoughts are on running an F1 can wet on a pistol. Its a titanium tube with a titanium/stainless baffle stack and I was going to use cable pulling lube. Thoughts?
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
My only concern about something like wire pulling lube, assuming the suppressor is built well, is corrosion, but since the OP's can is Ti and stainless, no worries, go for it.
Would make for great propaganda as to why the ATF is a worthless parasitical organization and why the nfa should be repealed.
Re: Running F1 can wet?
The atf ruled the opposite of what you think. Wipes are replaceable by the end user. Regardless, what makes you think ablative media and wipes are legally equal in every way just because they both make your silencer quieter?Hannibalbarca wrote:I just took their ruling to its logical conclusionyondering wrote:Brilliant, invent more restrictive rules for yourself that don't actually exist.Hannibalbarca wrote: Recently the ATF said that wipes are considered suppressor parts which means you can't replace them yourself, only the manufacturer can.
Reason being is it reduces volume so it's a suppressor part.
By this logic running a can wet is manufacturing an illegal suppressor part. The ATF hasn't said an opinion on this, this I just a logical conclusion I came to based off of their ruling on wipes.
My only concern about something like wire pulling lube, assuming the suppressor is built well, is corrosion, but since the OP's can is Ti and stainless, no worries, go for it.
You're an idiot.Hannibalbarca wrote:I honestly hope they make a definite ruling on this and say it's illegal to run a can wet because then you're manufacturing suppressor parts.
Would make for great propaganda as to why the ATF is a worthless parasitical organization and why the nfa should be repealed.
No one who doesn't own an NFA item gives a F--k about atf rulings and this wouldn't suddenly change anything. Those that do own NFA items already all know how much the atf sucks.
Why don't you run your cans dry to abide by the laws you created in your head. Meanwhile, we'll keep running ours wet.
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Now, now fish. There's no such thing as stupid questions.fishman wrote:...You're an idiot.Hannibalbarca wrote:I honestly hope they make a definite ruling on this and say it's illegal to run a can wet because then you're manufacturing suppressor parts.
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Yes, but I'm a firm believer of stupid statementsdoubloon wrote:Now, now fish. There's no such thing as stupid questions.fishman wrote:...You're an idiot.Hannibalbarca wrote:I honestly hope they make a definite ruling on this and say it's illegal to run a can wet because then you're manufacturing suppressor parts.
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Re: Running F1 can wet?
I'm with fish. That's one of the dumbest things posted here in quite a while.