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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by jlwilliams » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:20 pm

Very cool. I have a bolt action 410 that I never use because it isn't really good for much as it is. Something like this would turn it into a sort of lawn and garden DeLisle.

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by John A. » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:59 pm

Can we please get a video soon so we can hear how it sounds.

Also looking forward to seeing how you plan to attach the handguard.
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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by doubloon » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:01 am

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by Enfield577 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:21 am

I will try to get a quick video sorted out soon. No hand guard required, the outer can is 3mm (about 1/8") thick Al and 1 1/2" diameter so works as a hold.

One guy wants a rail on the tube for a torch etc, so we can sort that out.

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by 3strucking » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:50 pm

great work.

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by T-Rex » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:47 am

Glad to see you got it all sorted out, nice work.
A couple Q's.
-What is the unfinished Al tubing for?
-In the 3rd pic, is that a witness mark or peen? If either, what's the purpose?
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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by a_canadian » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:31 pm

Pretty sure the little mark is for making sure the front bead sight is perfectly aligned, as it's a threaded tube mounted to the receiver. What I'm not so sure about is how one maintains that alignment - Loc-tite perhaps? But I bet those threads get fairly warm, being right next to the hottest chamber in the integral can, so perhaps Rockset? Or maybe a grub screw which isn't shown... But then there's no need for a witness mark, so I guess not.

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by T-Rex » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:46 pm

All makes sense now.

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Just a thought. If you haven't gone into production, I think you could do away w/ the unfinished Al tube. Make the Barrel's threaded Bushing/Trunnion about an inch longer. Then, relieve the first portion of the threads, that inch, to a bit smaller than the first spacer tubes ID. It would allow the first spacer tube to stay centered whilst filling with rivets. No need to make another part or have the customer thread/unthread the unfinished "holder" tube.

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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by Enfield577 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:37 pm

Great idea thanks....i will give it a try......good thing of these forums you get another pair of experienced eyes on the jpb...cheers
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Re: Suppressed 410 ---It's Complete

Post by gunny50 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:44 am

Enfield,

Very well executed.

Nice to see you busy again.

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Post by Enfield577 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:40 pm

gunny50 wrote:Enfield,

Very well executed.

Nice to see you busy again.

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Always busy mate and lots of gun stuff, just spent a bit of time recently working on the Lotus, so was not much to post about.
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Re: ....

Post by fishman » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Why was this redacted?
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I figured Enfield did it to protect intellectual property?
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Post by gunny50 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:09 am

T-Rex wrote:I figured Enfield did it to protect intellectual property?
That might be right as he is selling these, there.

I fully understand that.

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Post by jlwilliams » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:02 pm

Nope. It's alien abduction. The little green bastards took his posts and they are probing them as we speak.

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Post by Enfield577 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:40 am

gunny50 wrote:
T-Rex wrote:I figured Enfield did it to protect intellectual property?
That might be right as he is selling these, there.

I fully understand that.

Gunny

You got it spot on, I was approached for a BIG order so checked out the patent thing, decided not to go that way and keep it as paying hobby/small sideline at this stage.

If anyone the details of the gun I am happy to re-post photos etc.

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Enfield577 wrote:If anyone the details of the gun I am happy to re-post photos etc.
Pretty sure that was implied :wink:
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Post by Enfield577 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Ok I will repost, I think easiest to just create another post.

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