It's legal, right?

[#40Fan]

To have more than one threaded end cap (muzzle side) for different hosts on a Form 1? One for 1/2-28, one for 5/8-24, etc.

[Capt. Link.]

To have more than one threaded end cap (muzzle side) for different hosts on a Form 1? One for 1/2-28, one for 5/8-24, etc.

Its legal to have one end cap threaded 5/8x24 and a adapter 5/8x24 to 1/2x28, but you can't have two end caps that are threaded for different hosts. The reason is a end cap is a suppressor part where a adapter is not.

[John A.]

To have more than one threaded end cap (muzzle side) for different hosts on a Form 1? One for 1/2-28, one for 5/8-24, etc.

Its legal to have one end cap threaded 5/8x24 and a adapter 5/8x24 to 1/2x28, but you can't have two end caps that are threaded for different hosts. The reason is a end cap is a suppressor part where a adapter is not.

Far as I know, it's also legal to own a booster and an endcap since a booster is classified as a mount.

[T-Rex]

No, it isn't legal to have multiple end caps for a single form 1.(see below)
An end cap is a silencer part, but a thread adapter isn't.
Some booster designs will be classified as silencer parts. The ones sold at retail are ok.

I say "for a single form 1" because you could build a couple different cans, with each rear cap having a different muzzle thread. At this point, they'd all be registered silencers/parts. End caps could be swapped between cans to get the correct configuration.

[fishman]

To have more than one threaded end cap (muzzle side) for different hosts on a Form 1? One for 1/2-28, one for 5/8-24, etc.

Instead, have your endcap attach to a muzzle brake. Buy muzzle brakes in 1/2x28 and 5/8x24

[#40Fan]

How do the manufacturers get away with multiple caps? Direct thread, muzzle device attachment and heck, even different front caps.

[fishman]

I believe that in some cases the front caps are excluded from silencer part status because they are off the shelf components that go to blast sheilds and compensators made by the same company.

Rear caps are kinda tricky, if it is considered a thread adapter, then its fine, but most endcaps are nothing more than thread adapters. I think part of the distinction is that thread adapters dont prevent baffles from sliding out the end of the tube. Endcaps do.

[#40Fan]

My main reason for asking is I "think" I'd like to have two different types of brakes/mounts. One being a Paladin two port and another a generic 13/16" - 16 external threaded brake. The generic being cheap, but I would want to try the taper mount of the Paladin.

If I can't legally have one endcap for each type of brake, I know which I'll keep.

Just find it odd that I could buy an Omega and get a few options but can't with a Form 1.

[John A.]

Because of the same reason why there is a case pending the supreme court about agencies writing their own rules.

In a different, but same category:

what is a firearm?

A firearm is the serialized frame/receiver where the magazine goes. Has nothing to do with the barrel, buttstock, fire control group or anything else.



However, a silencer isn't just the tube that holds everything like a receiver is. They say it's somehow different and special and every darn thing in or attached to it is a silencer.



Typical government doublespeak.

It is legal, until it isn't anymore.

Do I like it? Nope. Do I agree with it? Nope? But what can I do about it?

[fishman]

A firearm is the serialized frame/receiver where the magazine goes. Has nothing to do with the barrel, buttstock, fire control group or anything else.

That's not true. There are several examples of firearms where the registered part isnt the part with the magwell. And some guns dont have magazines.

ACR, Scar, Uzi, and Vector are some examples

[John A.]

I think you missed my point.

A serialized receiver/frame is the gun. I was using an AR lower as an example.

However, a serialized suppressor tube is treated differently in respect to the law. Not only is it treated as a silencer, but so are the endcaps and baffles and spacers and wipes or whatever is included.

By that logic, each part of a firearm frame (whether serialized or not), each part like the hammer, selector spring, and what-not would also be considered a firearm too, with as stupid as that would be.

[#40Fan]

Alright, I'll stop with the plan of having two types and sell the Paladin's. Thanks, everyone.

[Capt. Link.]

By that logic, each part of a firearm frame (whether serialized or not), each part like the hammer, selector spring, and what-not would also be considered a firearm too, with as stupid as that would be.

I live in the state of stupid where a loaded enbloc,magazine,clip or speed loader is a firearm.

-CL

[Historian]

By that logic, each part of a firearm frame (whether serialized or not), each part like the hammer, selector spring, and what-not would also be considered a firearm too, with as stupid as that would be.

I live in the state of stupid where a loaded enbloc,magazine,clip or speed loader is a firearm.

-CL

Good Captain, the GS-9 who has promulgated this stretch
in definition would have an onanistic interesting conundrum with
some 50 year old silencer designs whose internal baffles
were separated disks, like shish kebab, held in place with
three threaded rods and nuts on each side of each disk.
Imagine the edict: " .... each rod is a silencer; each of the
6 nuts per disk is a separate silencer.

Having in your work shop a box of 100 6 x 32 machine screw nuts
would land you in prison for all those unregistered silencers. Whew!
Reductio ad stupidanum.

Pass the HPA, Mitch. Drive a DemonRat nuts.