Dimensions...tac 65...(Pic heavy)

cdmillig · Post by **cdmillig** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:50 pm

awesome. I didn't know some cans were built like that. Thought they were all a single piece baffle w/a tube around it. I bet silencers like that one would be easier to clean.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:45 am

st33ve0- the thread cound was 28 tpi on the end caps.

st33ve0 · Post by **st33ve0** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:04 am

jimmym40a2 wrote:st33ve0- the thread cound was 28 tpi on the end caps.

Excellent thanks! You've done a great service to the boards with this thread

mx201er · Post by **mx201er** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:44 pm

sry, but I am new to silencers.
why is there a hole at an angle to the main hole for the bullet?

I have only seen ones with holes straight throught all the way around the flat peice.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:52 pm

It allows gas to enter around the cone utilizing the volume of the can and causing the gas to "swirl" slowing it down before exiting. other wise you have wasted volume with out the holes.

mx201er · Post by **mx201er** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:59 pm

this is the one i was talking about....
http://www.cncguns.com/projects/22silencer.html

bkkd · Post by **bkkd** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:29 pm

uhhh im not trying to be a stick in the mud or anything, but did you ask craig if you could publish his tac-65 specs on the internet?

a lot of manufacturers would have a cow if somebody done this to their designs.......

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:07 pm

No- I don't know Craig and I'm not manufacturing cans for sale. I'm sure any manufacture that is serious about producing silencers has bought one and has the dimensions. (as well as dozens of other manufactures) I posted this for the F1 can maker so he has a baseline to get ideas from. I'm sure the amount of F1 cans is minimal and not putting anyone out of business. He makes a great product at a great price and this is not about hurting anyones business. If I made a can I would expect others to look at it and do the same. His great price and customer service will keep him in business for years to come.

3101 · Post by **3101** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:18 pm

there is no way anyone could keep from posting those on the net, assuming they were bought in fair commerce and not some sort of "trade secret"......

the net is full of drawings, diagrams, pics of parts and modifications of those parts........

bkkd · Post by **bkkd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:35 am

post up the same stuff from aac or gemtech or awc and see if they dont mind

Mageever · Post by **Mageever** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:26 am

bkkd wrote:uhhh im not trying to be a stick in the mud or anything, but did you ask craig if you could publish his tac-65 specs on the internet?

a lot of manufacturers would have a cow if somebody done this to their designs.......

IF he had posted specs THEN he would indeed be in trouble. To post specs he would have to have the prints used by the manufacturer. But he didn't post any specs. He posted some dimensions. There is nothing wrong with that, especially on a design like this that is pretty much an industry standard.

bkkd · Post by **bkkd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:49 am

sure thing............im just waiting until some of the other manufacturers weight in on this

bkkd · Post by **bkkd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:39 pm

PTK wrote:Those Tac-65s gum up so quickly it's not worth trying to clean them. Can't use ultrasound to clean them, either - aluminum.

Can you tell I'm frustrated with my -65? I hardly use it any more.

ive cleaned mine at least a dozen times, i wouldnt have one that could not be taken apart.

simply take a dull knife and scrape the lead off......or a small flat screwdriver.

works fine and last a long time.

green0 · Post by **green0** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:46 am

Closed Casket wrote:Is that suppressor considered as quiet as the Outback II and Pilot?

Most thru holes on .22lr cans I have seen were .250"

I see this one has a .275" thru hole.

Most .22lr cans have .264 holes. The .25" holes are a good way to trash cans. The tac cans are .275, and my QD can is .281 at the muzzle.

The Tac 65 has a 1.1" tube, rather than a std 1" tube. aparently (according to these pictures) it's ~.069" wall, so they are only picking up .050" of actual useful space with that.

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When you use a calipers you want to measure ID curved objects with the bladed parts of the anvils, not the thick flats. Obviously the thick flat isn't giving you a good measurement on the ID curved surface.

AKA http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z101 ... 0_0589.jpg

Actually,there are a set of ID anvils on the opposing side of the caliper (those pointy guys going the opposite direction of the main set), of course they may not get past the thread Minor diameter region of the tube.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:35 am

Closed Casket · Post by **Closed Casket** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:20 am

I wonder if someone cut up an AAC suppressor and posted pics of the guts here if the thread would last.

green0 · Post by **green0** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:00 pm

Closed Casket wrote:I wonder if someone cut up an AAC suppressor and posted pics of the guts here if the thread would last.

I don't think so.

Nor do I think it should. I think people should buy a product or make one of their own design. Not copy another.

And esspecially not copy a Tac 65. It's not even really a good suppressor.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:28 pm

I didn't post them for people to copy per se but as a baseline for there own designs. Let's say your making one and you wonder....what do others use as a (blank) dimension. it gives you something to compare to and modify.

green0 · Post by **green0** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:04 pm

jimmym40a2 wrote:I didn't post them for people to copy per se but as a baseline for there own designs.

Right I suppose that makes sense.

When you look at stuff like this though, it just strikes me as something someone will more likely attempt to copy.

The companies have blueprints of parts that are used for machining and these documents are almost always marked "confidential and proprietary" for good reasons.

Obviously people can buy and copy too. I understand that.

Mtdew · Post by **Mtdew** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:14 pm

Closed Casket wrote:I wonder if someone cut up an AAC suppressor and posted pics of the guts here if the thread would last.

They have. It was a Pilot with pics of the internals. It's still around here somewhere

As soon as pics are posted it's quite easy to pull dimensions from just the pics...

All you need is one refrence dimension and the rest is easy.

green0 · Post by **green0** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:22 pm

Mtdew wrote:
Closed Casket wrote:I wonder if someone cut up an AAC suppressor and posted pics of the guts here if the thread would last.
They have. It was a Pilot with pics of the internals. It's still around here somewhere

As soon as pics are posted it's quite easy to pull dimensions from just the pics...

All you need is one refrence dimension and the rest is easy.

Well since not everyone is a Japanese photo-wizard with a chinese copying background and graphical arts degree, I think things like this are much closer than simple pictures of items.

It's just two different schools of thought. People who design things and understand those exact designs should rightfully be their property, and people who think s--t should be a giant free for all, with everyone copying anything they want to a thousandth of an inch.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:08 pm

Here it is

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:25 pm

jimmym40a2 wrote:Here it is

What is it? Or was this just a bump?

-B

delta9mda · Post by **delta9mda** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:58 pm

its a bump.

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