See thru can

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:04 pm

I remember a while back someone brought up the idea of a see thru can. Well, while at work i came across a 2 1/2" round x 4' long piece of clear "plexiglass". looks like plexiglass just in a round bar stock. Would it be "legal" "alright" to make a can out of this for the see thru effects or would it constitute it a can? Kinda like using the machinable wax. I think if you made one with this it wouldnt last long if you did try to shoot it so thats why I think it would be the same as the machinable wax. What do you all think?

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:23 pm

I'm thinking no go.....

Tiloke · Post by **Tiloke** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:31 pm

Probably not ok.

Plexiglass will stand up to at least a .22 and at least for one shot.

Wax, on the other hand......

kalikraven · Post by **kalikraven** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:33 pm

If you were an SOT then go for it, other than that It would'nt be worth the $200 to make it legal, and if it did work then it would be too damn hard to keep it a secret if you did'nt do the form 1.

RX7-2nr · Post by **RX7-2nr** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:52 am

ummmm.......if making a soda bottle 22lr suppressor is illegal, this would be too.

pneumagger · Post by **pneumagger** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:02 am

RX7-2nr wrote:ummmm.......if making a soda bottle 22lr suppressor is illegal, this would be too.

Unless NFA registered and $200 is paid, then soda/pop/coke bottle suppressors are most definately illegal.

mactool · Post by **mactool** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:43 am

what if you drill small bleed holes say 40 all around the " thingy" with a diameter off 0.1", or made the baffels without the center hole, and then glueded everything together?

wolf · Post by **wolf** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:27 am

Mill out a quarter of the can
So that looking from the front or rear of the can it would look look a cake that was missing a quarter

Only you had to make it in a way that you at no time had a working part

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:27 pm

I see what your saying on the soda pop bottle deal...didnt think of that one. Even if I left out the center hole and anything else then it wouldnt look like its supposed to

might as well write silencer on the round stock I have and put it up on the shelf

Might have to buy some machinable wax and do this......

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:28 pm

wolf wrote:Mill out a quarter of the can
So that looking from the front or rear of the can it would look look a cake that was missing a quarter

Only you had to make it in a way that you at no time had a working part

I have no idea what your talking about

any pics of your idea

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:55 pm

AS per your original question.......Here is a can that has a plastic core. So this makes me think it's a no go.

You can't see thru it but material wise you see what I mean it can be used to suppress.

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:07 pm

I like your can, how does it do? My next can I will make but trying to decide what to do still.

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:21 pm

that is not my can. I'm just saying plastic has been used in cans before so making one to "model" probably is not a wise idea. Slip on a metal cover and bam...........

this core looks plastic to me but it might not be?

CanNotHear · Post by **CanNotHear** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:27 pm

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wolf · Post by **wolf** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:41 pm

camoxjeep wrote:
wolf wrote:Mill out a quarter of the can
So that looking from the front or rear of the can it would look look a cake that was missing a quarter

Only you had to make it in a way that you at no time had a working part
I have no idea what your talking about any pics of your idea

Like this ,only in this picture the can had the half removed
Make one where only a quarter was removed
That would make it a non functional can
The trick is to never have a working part at any time
Make the baffle without the trough hole cut away a quarter ,first then mill the trough hole
You never made a working baffle

Selectedmarksman · Post by **Selectedmarksman** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:11 pm

I seem to remember reading about that Maglite suppressor. I don't think that individual is in the US and so he doesn't have any restrictions about replacing the 'baffle stack' (such as it is). Clearly, that foam wouldn't last very long.

Why would one want a see-through can anyway? I'm not sure I understand the purpose. If it's flash you want, you might check out one of DeGroat's "flash enhancers."

jimmym40a2 · Post by **jimmym40a2** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:16 pm

I think he wants to make some mock designs.

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:05 pm

jimmym40a2 wrote:I think he wants to make some mock designs.

exactly, basically something you could sit on the shelf and look at but dont think its gonna happen now unless I have $200 to just throw away

camoxjeep · Post by **camoxjeep** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:28 pm

[quote="wolf"]

Like this ,only in this picture the can had the half removed
Make one where only a quarter was removed
That would make it a non functional can
The trick is to never have a working part at any time
Make the baffle without the trough hole cut away a quarter ,first then mill the trough hole
You never made a working baffle
quote]

Ok I see what your saying now. thats an idea. Thanks

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:00 pm

wolf wrote:
camoxjeep wrote:
wolf wrote:Mill out a quarter of the can
So that looking from the front or rear of the can it would look look a cake that was missing a quarter

Only you had to make it in a way that you at no time had a working part
I have no idea what your talking about any pics of your idea
Like this ,only in this picture the can had the half removed
Make one where only a quarter was removed
That would make it a non functional can
The trick is to never have a working part at any time
Make the baffle without the trough hole cut away a quarter ,first then mill the trough hole
You never made a working baffle

Hey thats a SWR Trident right? Mine looks just like that, well on the inside I mean!

-B

Doink67 · Post by **Doink67** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:54 am

It's the people's suppressor, there was a thread not too long ago about it

Armorer-at-Law · Post by **Armorer-at-Law** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:37 pm

Why would one want a see-through can anyway? I'm not sure I understand the purpose.

In order to take high speed video of it being fired. That would be very interesting (assuming open baffles), though the interior surface would be smoked up or may be scarred after one shot, I expect. The clear housing could even be oversized for strength or odd shaped in order to accomodate the camera, since its purpose is for filming, not portability.

bone · Post by **bone** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:32 am

Doink67 wrote:It's the people's suppressor, there was a thread not too long ago about it

But still.

That is SWR:s patented baffles.
You can't make them without SWR approval.

wolf · Post by **wolf** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:42 am

It is not my photo/cad drawing
AND it was only used to show what i meant about the cut away .it could have been any type of baffles

And if the parts never are parts of a silencer/suppressor ,,how can they be what SWR did have a patent on ??( i might be wrong on this ??)

Remember the OP want something that is NOT a suppressor

He wants to make a show piece ,and to avoid the tax ,no part could never at any time have been a part that was regulated

But that said ,if it was me and i did make something that did look like the can in the photo/cad drawing ,i would still ask if it was ok before doing so

PS ,i know its not always a good thing to ask the ATF questions
But in this case i would do so to get a letter saying it was ok to make those parts WITHOUT paying then $200 tax