There was a time that having a shoe lace an a semi auto riffle was= machine-gun
people has been convicted for selling grass ,,real grass from a lawn ,not dope
but because they thought it was dope (someone did fool them),they got convicted ,,,for ,,,intend
THAT is exactly the stuff I am talking about .....
I call bullshit on the first statement the way you wrote it
...... Cite one case - just one - where a semi-auto rifle owner was charged (I don't even care about conviction) there the semi-auto owner was wearing tennis shoes (or any shoes with laces) was charged with anything - where they hadn't tried to tie the string to the rfle and achieve full auto fire
The word 'intent' implies a thought, desire, or wish. Once someone actually attempts an action, sucessful or not, it surpasses 'intent' and becomes an 'act'. Acts are illegal and often prosecuted - intent is much more difficult to identify, and nearly impossible to prosecute without an act in furtherance.
In your second example - people that sell or attempt to sell look-a-like drugs are going much further than 'intent'. People who buy look-a-like drugs also didn't stop at their 'intent' to buy drugs, they made an attempt to buy something they thougth was a drug, and did, in fact, buy something. There is your act in furtherance.
Intent - is thought ... and when we can get arrested for our thoughts, we are all in trouble.
I think there is some thing here about ATF’s prior legal strategies for persecuting err prosecuting gun crime.
The first examble was to show how stupid the law was
and as we know, it can be dangerous to get to close something stupid
the second examble was that the man selling did not sell dope ,there wasnt ANY dope
but that didnt help him
it was the intend (he thought he would sell dope )
and yes you CAN be convicted for you thoughts , so if you havent realized it WE ARE in trouble
its a constant fight against stupid laws
keep it in your head ,and nobody knows
tell on the Internet and be prepared for trouble
having something with the intend to use it to build a can =illegal
if it can not be proven that your intend was to build a can = you probely wont be in trouble
(having a tube to be welded on to a construction + some fenderwashers ,,actually mounted on the fender )
telling on the net that those parts are for when the s--t hits the fan , and then ready to be build into a xxx
then intend can be proven
the whole point her is
think before you type and talk
even if you are not intending things that are illegal
still the words will be out there in cyberspace
so bad put wordings can get you into trouble
like you want to say
the tube and baffles are no problems , i have them planned , i know how to get them , when i have the papers sorted out
but in a hurry it is written
the tube and baffles are no problems , i have them , when i have the papers sorted out
The atf then dont have to prove anything
they have YOUR words for it