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help before machining !

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Well... like title says.....
Its for a .22
Wich of this ones will work better on a .22 carabine

What u think about this design, measures?
Will work ?
what changes would you do?


Saludos ! will post results after tests--

I bet this option is the Best
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Why everyone shutup ? :roll: :roll: :roll:

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unanaranja wrote:Why everyone shutup ? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Saludos
We hope that you are intelligent enough to first have received official approval.

Then, the only fillip that could be offered for a carbine use is to increase the length
to 8". More volume, more expansion, more heat dissipation, etc. Of course you already
must know this from the insights on this forum.

Please let us know, see, and hear of your final product.

Success.
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sure i will let know results..about legality... in this country (argentina).barely u can use airguns..and just a thief have more rights than a guy who want do the stuffs right... dont think about a silencer is legal..but that is another thing--
so.. thx for reply.
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On the second one, you don't need that big first chamber for a 22. That will only result in a FRP (First Round Pop). So if I was making this can I would put in another baffle there. But the only sure way to find out how well this design of yours will work is to try it.
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Thx alot for your comment Sid-
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Why do you have the mouse halls only into the first baffle on the first design? I would add it to at least 2 more.
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no dude, there are mouse holes, in all chambers, take a look...

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the one I made was very similar to the first one you have pictured, It works great if you have access to the machinery to make it, the dimensions look good also. Someone else already mentioned that the second one has too big of an expansion chamber for a .22, I second that :)
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I think I will do, are these cones (alu) whit a lathe ,and pieces of aluminium tube , as spacers.
I bet for a 22 rifle will work very well.
The idea is to make the silencers with 11 cones of 60 degrees.

Thus basically [<<<<<<<<<<<]


What do u think ?

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i think it will not work that way ,i mean with 60 degree cones + narrow spacers , try at 90 degree cone .
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iron.maiden wrote:i think it will not work that way ,i mean with 60 degree cones + narrow spacers , try at 90 degree cone .

90 degree cone ???

could u draw what u mean Mr ?


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If you can beat the last one here viewtopic.php?p=529714#p529714 I'd like to see the design. Yes, it's THAT good, best silencer I've ever (not) heard.
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i dont have skills and machines to do some like that... very nice btw-
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It's not THAT hard, do you have a lathe and mill (or a drill press)?
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Fulmen wrote:It's not THAT hard, do you have a lathe and mill (or a drill press)?

both
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ok, will post resulsts, photos, videos when finished-
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hola loco, yo uso este diseño y me da excelentes resultados:
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las medidas son 30mm de largo x 30mm de diametro.
dejo una recamara al principio de 30-40mm y a continuacion pongo 5 de estos bafles.
aca te dejo un video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIPcm-WgA-Y
mandame tu mail por MP y nos mantenemos en contacto.
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muy bueno !!!
Thanks
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Como ya he dicho en otro post lo mejor para un 22 es un tubo de aluminio de 35mm con una barra interior de 32mm y a esa barra redonda mecanizarla 10 camaras en "V" de 45 o 60 grados de entre 8 y 10mm de ancho y una separacion entre camaras de 2mm esto hace una longitud de 150mm en total. Hay que usar maquinaria CNC en freadopra manual tambien se puede pero es mucho mas lento y complicado en CNC mecanizar las camaras con una herramienta de 6mm puede llevar 2 horas maximo
En cuanto pueda pongo fotos.
Sorry, this comment in english for mi it is complicated
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Hi Unanaranja,

¿ Are all these designs made by you or just copied/pasted from someone else ?

If it's the first case, i do recommend you to use just one modeling tool (I see there at least 3 different programs). If it’s the second option (copy/paste) I do recommend you to ask that question to the design owners … and also ask for some sort of permission, you know …

We all try, at this forum, to post as much information as we can without compromising our efforts, money, time, knowhow, … (sometime jobs) and don’t like to be copied/pasted that fast and that shameless.

You can always relay on others job to improve or innovate. Always mention the source. And always share.

This forum is not intended for design predators. Don’t be one of them !. Be one of us !. Join the community !. We all know you can do it !.

Being said that, just a moment of pray (several suppressed seconds …). Done !, you see, it’s easy.

By the way, the second design is closer to the Scirocco SM-11 (award winning in UK).

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