Red Jacket 12ga Suppressor baffle pics...

[Iansstud]

anyone know what the inside of a Red Jacket 12ga suppressor looks like?

Im trying to design a Form 1 can, and am having trouble finding any pics of baffles...

I would assume it is just a ported barrel extension, with baffels. I would like to know how many, and any info about the porting...


Thanks-

[Bowen1911]

the 308 can pictures I have seen are pretty much washers with dater holes

[Historian]

the 308 can pictures I have seen are pretty much washers with dater holes

From your experience could this be improved MESHING AROUND with #16 Phosphor Bronze mesh
in jelly roles (sic ) in each chamber.? They would be easily cleaned or replaced.

[Bowen1911]

I've never seen one in person, but after that picture, I think I will stick to form 1's

[Jmark]

Interesting that the idea of a spring holding a baffle stack was being discussed in another thread and was generally thought of as a bad idea. I happen to agree with that line of thought. I don't see how the spring would last any significant length of time.

[Iansstud]

Thanks for the pic!

I dont belive in springs for a rifle can! That is for sure!!!! After watching the son of guns show, Maybe its just the editing, but it sure seems like from Idea to product there is very little R&D that goes into a red jacket project, but like I said, Maybe its just the editing... If I worked there I sure as HELL wouldent last a day without Knocking will's ass out cold if he talked to me like he does his guys! I cant belive he treats his employees like that!

I was hoping to see a one of the 2' long cans they make for the saiga 12ga shotguns taken apart...

[Fulmen]

I don't see how the spring would last any significant length of time.

If he spring doesn't reach it's yield load before reaching full compression it shouldn't experience too much wear. Not that I think it's a good idea, but from an engineering point of view it should work fine.

[Blackpearl]

The spring in the pics above is not what I had in mind when I started the other thread. Die springs are alot different than a regular coil spring. If the spring posted above will hold up any lenght of time at all, a die spring would not be a "bad" idea. Anyhoo, back on topic. I would love to see a baffle design for a 12ga myself. Surely somebody will chime in with some pics and info. I don't understand how the shot doesn't get tangled up in the baffles???


Nice .22 can in the video by the way...

[Wicked]

the 308 can pictures I have seen are pretty much washers with dater holes

MAG light and freeze plugs. Form 1 for sure!!

[rockmup]

The spring in the pics above is not what I had in mind when I started the other thread. Die springs are alot different than a regular coil spring. If the spring posted above will hold up any lenght of time at all, a die spring would not be a "bad" idea. Anyhoo, back on topic. I would love to see a baffle design for a 12ga myself. Surely somebody will chime in with some pics and info. I don't understand how the shot doesn't get tangled up in the baffles???


Nice .22 can in the video by the way...

There are pics in here somewhere of a Russian 12G can. RJ's are just a vairiaton of it. Nothing special or ground breaking. Its simply a ported barrel with choreboy wrapped between the barrel and outer tube

[delta9mda]

wow. really? really? i mean really?

[Tanasoo]

wow. really? really? i mean really?

Have you seen their show? Their idea of precision work is taking a wire feed and angle grinder to an old AK...

[oneeyedmac]

If I watch the show just for entertainment, which is what it's meant to be, I guess it's OK. I wouldn't watch it to learn about the gun business or guns and I don't think their intention is to teach anyone about the gun business, it's to entertain. Will seems like the kind of guy who'd be OK to have a beer with and his people seem to like him.

That .308 suppressor isn't on their web site but their .556 suppressors run $589-$675 which seems high for what it is. I'd love to hear one or see a video of one in use. There are also mis-spelled words on their web site which I find embarrassing. Not that I'm a champion speller but I use spell check on my web site.

Then again, who am I to judge.

ETA: I found videos on Youtube of their cans AK:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xetvci2kePE, Saiga with hot girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASLaYVqz9kc&NR=1, another Saiga with a different girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0KQSQoxY8&NR=1 and there are others if you search. Of course it's hard to judge sound quality on a youtube video.

[Tanasoo]

If I watch the show just for entertainment, which is what it's meant to be, I guess it's OK. I wouldn't watch it to learn about the gun business or guns and I don't think their intention is to teach anyone about the gun business, it's to entertain. Will seems like the kind of guy who'd be OK to have a beer with and his people seem to like him.
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I agree completely.

[urban assault]

I'm starting to wonder if Red Jacket's idea of R&D isn't just opening up another case of Budweiser.

"Fire up the grinders and the chop-saw boys, I got me a grand ideer!"



-urban

[Blackpearl]

I honestly think most of what you see is done with an entertainment aspect. Think about it like this. Most people that watch that show(I base this on my friends that watch it and have no idea how guns really work)are going to be more impressed to see a die grinder throwing sparks than they would be watching some guy sit at a bench with a ruby stone and a trigger/sear doing a precision polish. Also, if these guys truly come up with unique designs, they do not want those designs shown on television for obvious reasons.

Now I will agree they are some good ol' boys. I being from Tennessee don't really have a problem with that as long as they do quality work. Kinda like on OCC. There is no way those guys really use a cordless drill to put a hole in the frame of a bike, that will eventually cost over $100k, and in this hand drilled hole rides the rear wheel assembly. It simply does not happen, but you see them do stuff like that all the time. And of course they fight to no extent. Really? This is how you run your business? No, it's all for entertainment purposes. Just my .02

Thanks for the links oneeyedmac. I personally can never get enough of hot girls shooting guns.....

[delta9mda]

wow. really? really? i mean really?

Have you seen their show? Their idea of precision work is taking a wire feed and angle grinder to an old AK...

i have watched it and find myself blurting out "gimme a break", "do this, dont do that", "what are you doing"? etc.

[oneeyedmac]

It wouldn't very interesting to watch a guy alone put 200 shots down range to test a firearm for function. So that may or may not be going on; we can't judge. We've seen them using a mill and I think I remember seeing a manual lathe in action once but if you watch you can see there are CNC machines in the shop but they don't show them in use because it's not very exciting to watch some person input code.

[camoxjeep]

I agree thats its more for entertainment purposes but give me a break about the guy they just brought on to weld and he cant even weld. At least if your gonna have a show about fabbing guns esp the type they work with at least do some decent fabbing so it doesnt look like you just crawled out of a 12 pack of bud and started throwing crap together to get the sale.

[Nighthawk]

I agree thats its more for entertainment purposes but give me a break about the guy they just brought on to weld and he cant even weld. At least if your gonna have a show about fabbing guns esp the type they work with at least do some decent fabbing so it doesnt look like you just crawled out of a 12 pack of bud and started throwing crap together to get the sale.

Speaking of the new guy welding, I like how Will asked him to TIG weld the holes closed then it showed him using a MIG welder. If they don't know the difference between the two they really have no business welding.

[jimmym40a2]

Speaking of the new guy welding, I like how Will asked him to TIG weld the holes closed then it showed him using a MIG welder. If they don't know the difference between the two they really have no business welding.

No Kiddin........

[sprayandpray]

Glad I wasnt the only one that caught that.....

Also , I dont know if it was the editing, but to me it looked like the -42 he rewelded and redesigned to shoot from a closed bolt , was at the very least doubling?

(and I thought you couldn't make an AOW from an existing shotgun)

[Nighthawk]

Glad I wasnt the only one that caught that.....

Also , I dont know if it was the editing, but to me it looked like the -42 he rewelded and redesigned to shoot from a closed bolt , was at the very least doubling?

(and I thought you couldn't make an AOW from an existing shotgun)

Yeah it seemed to be doubling to me too. I like when they were building the Ma Deuce 50 cal and one of the gunsmiths was talking about how many rivets that it has. He compared it to an AK47 which he said "has 6 or 8 rivets".

Now I'm no professional gunsmith but I've built about 15 AK's, everything from bulgarian krinks to yugo RPKs and just a standard romanian wood stock AK has 13 rivets. Where he got 6 or 8 I haven't the foggiest but he's not one I would want to build my rifle. As far as gunsmiths go, these guys seem like a joke. I think they got their gunsmith training from the Wile E. Coyote school of gunsmithing.

[oneeyedmac]

It's a show that edited and re-edited to be entertaining; nothing more. We have no idea what has been taken out and I seriously doubt whether the folks doing the editing have any idea which end of the gun the bullet comes out. I think I even saw a post where Will said that they have no say at all in how the editing goes or what actually ends up on the tube.

I've doubted that anyone in the entertainment industry wants to reflect anything in the gun industry in a good light anyway. Maybe they want these guys to look like rubes, who knows.

Just me $.02, for what it's worth.

[delta9mda]

It's a show that edited and re-edited to be entertaining; nothing more. We have no idea what has been taken out and I seriously doubt whether the folks doing the editing have any idea which end of the gun the bullet comes out. I think I even saw a post where Will said that they have no say at all in how the editing goes or what actually ends up on the tube.

I've doubted that anyone in the entertainment industry wants to reflect anything in the gun industry in a good light anyway. Maybe they want these guys to look like rubes, who knows.

Just me $.02, for what it's worth.

doesnt make the show suck any less