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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:58 pm 
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Guys, is this cut of Thundertap ?

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:35 pm 
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Probably everybody knows this designs, but …



Reflex Suppressor T8 Scout

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Manufacturer: BR-Tuote Oy – Finland
Length: 12” (30,5 cm)
Diameter: 1,96” (5.0 cm)
Weight: 23,8 oz (675 g)
Sound reduction: 20-25 dB (Manufacturer)

Z-jet

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Manufacturer: Ase Ultra - Finland
Length: 7,5” (19 cm)
Diameter: 1,75” (4.4 cm)
Weight: 25,2 oz (675 g)
Sound reduction: 30-35 dB (Manufacturer)

AAC Titan

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Manufacturer: AAC
Length: 10”
Diameter: 2”
Weight: 38 oz
Sound reduction: 35-38 dB (Manufacturer)

PB Silenced Pistol

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Caliber: 9x18 Makarov
Weight: 970 g
Length complete: 310 mm
Barrel length: 105 mm

Sparrow 22

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Manufacturer: SilencerCo
Length: 6,125”
Diameter: 1.062”
Weight: 4,7 oz
Sound reduction: 40 dB (Manufacturer)

Osprey 9

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Manufacturer: SilencerCo
Length: 8,0625”
Dimensions: 1.3” x 1,72”
Weight: 11,1 oz
Sound reduction: ? dB


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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:33 pm 
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Another one.
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
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Another one TGP-A (Russian)
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:40 pm 
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Sid_Vicious wrote:
This one was interesting. Do you have any more info?


A little additional info
http://foto.mail.ru/mail/photoshooter/3792/

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Russian PBS-1

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:17 am 
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Vaime A5

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and KAC Snap-on Beretta

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:06 am 
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Suppressor for SR3M (russian).
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:46 pm 
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here one of the most interesting suppressor designs ,easy -lightweight- nice sound reduction called Delta Series ,manufactured in Germany.
here one on 243 remmy. 24''
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:25 am 
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from russia with love 7.62x39
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:52 am 
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22 Sparrow new SS core.

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Here are some of baffle pics from a QSM 45 can that was sold as an OEM can with the TDI Kriss.

Hope to get a picture of the stack and a couple others today will add them as I get them.

Top of the baffle.
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Side of the baffle.
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Another view of the baffle.
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:58 pm 
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a strange chinese 5.8 suppressor , bottom another russian 7.62x39
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:44 am 
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already seen but these are nice and golden ccf 45 can
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:53 pm 
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more two monocores , 22LR, 22 magnum, 17 HM2 and 17 HMR.
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CIA Integral Ruger MK1 pistol. Manufactured for them in 1950.

Not a single marking on the entire pistol. Not even the standard Ruger markings all over the receiver. No serial either.

Overview of the pistol.
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Business end of the pistol.
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Once we broke the end cap loose(hasn't been opened in at least 25 years).
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Layout of the extremely basic washer and spacers. Stainless steel and crudely machined(sharp edges and alot of tool marks).
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Overview of the pistol disassembled.
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The pistol was pulled from service because it was so loud, all the others were re-cored and are now notably quieter. This was the only one that was not re-cored. Even though it hasn't been shot in years it sounded decent but nothing compared to the thread-on or integrals we have now.

Nice piece of history to get to play with. Now if I could only acquire this for my collection.

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:37 pm 
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This ex-Israeli Beretta has some almost imperceptible markings at the bottom of the grip (The two Hebrew characters to the right of the factory R):

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It took me almost 2 weeks after acquiring it to notice they were not simply wear marks, and a good month before someone finally told me their meaning. They said those were Mossad markings. The pistol, however, has all its factory lettering and SN intact.

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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:30 am 
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Gemtech Multimount. "Jailbroke" the rear by accident when i overtightened the can

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Blast baffle after 300 rounds or so
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Qual A Tec/Phrobis rifle and pistol baffles from the original designer in California.


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Photo includes the original Neilson Device for a Navy Beretta silencer.

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From Left to Right: Crimped cone baffle later used in Knight and AWC silencers, first used with a added on ported thick baffle; H&K pattern baffle for 9mm; early thick baffle for rifles and .22 ruger with welded in supports from cut down tubing to prevent collapsing; Second pattern thick baffle for rifle silencers, usually found in very small form for use with "wet" .22 silenced pistols like Beretta 948, H&K HK4 and Walther. Top is Recoil Device for heavy Beretta silencer.


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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:30 pm 
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i found 3d m42000 drawing , i do not think that aac made it , so, i don't know if it's correct or just a thought about m42k
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:24 am 
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paco ramirez wrote:
It's not mine. Where did you find this?


iron.maiden wrote:
i found 3d m42000 drawing , i do not think that aac made it , so, i don't know if it's correct or just a thought about m42k
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Paco , who said it's yours ? i found it , i didn't make it because i do not have skills in 3d ( if i had 15 % of your talent i would be very happy :) ) i can't say the same thing about photoshop
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:58 pm 
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Here is a picture of the Qual A Tec/Phrobis crimped cone spacer with a baffle welded up for Navy testing (not my picture)

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Notice baffle one and three are welded together.

These proved to be more durable than the H&K style machined thick baffle with the one piece cone on the back, well at least with rifle caliber ammo. The cut down tubing had to be welded into place to prevent it from collapsing from the heat of M16 carbine fire.

Pretty ingenious.

If you do not believe me on the details, check out the second issue of SAR and check out the article written by Doug Olsen, who ran the Qual A Tec shop near the Navy Weapons Center in Crane Indiana in the 1980's. I was also told that these baffles were the basis for the Qual A Tec H&K P7 silencer for SEAL Team 6. Only one was ever leaked into civilian hands (stolen by a Navy SEAL and registered by a Florida Class 2, who died in a Motorcycle wreck in the 1990's.) Another was found in San Diego on a P7 that was given by Qual A Tec to a local Animal Control Agency for quiet varmint shooting......they also had one of two prototype Amphibian style Rugers (stainless steel), now sadly destroyed.


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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
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Quicksilver monocore.
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And new version of PBS.
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 Post subject: Re: Supressor Baffle Pics!
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Another one.
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