Fake can

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Hello,

I live up in Canada. I would like to build a fake suppressor - in other words very little sound attenuation allowed. That is all I am allowed up here.

I can buy one for $500 or so, but I am more interested in building one. The muzzle on this TP9 is approximately 1 inch with some lugs present.

Where do I start? I don't need a BATF form.
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bluejay wrote:Hello,

I live up in Canada. I would like to build a fake suppressor - in other words very little sound attenuation allowed. That is all I am allowed up here.

I can buy one for $500 or so, but I am more interested in building one. The muzzle on this TP9 is approximately 1 inch with some lugs present.

Where do I start? I don't need a BATF form.
Get a thick piece of tubing the diameter you want it to look like for a can and thread the rear so it will fit on the TP9 or to accept a mount that will fit your TP9.

Fake cans are the easiest thing to do if you have access to a lathe.

On your own for the laws up there, I have heard of only 1 case where someone was prosecuted for owning a silencer and it only reduced the signature by 3 dB.

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Thank you. As long as it attenuates like the $500 one, I believe I am safe.
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bluejay wrote:Thank you. As long as it attenuates like the $500 one, I believe I am safe.
They seriously are charging $500 for a piece of tubing?

Can you post a link to what they are selling? I hope there is more to it than that as for $500 you can get a decent silencer down here.

Yikes!

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Please don't get me wrong. The dealer with these B&T accessories is great. You are getting 100% service and support for your product, from a company that will be there for the long haul. I like them.

At this link choose price list and a pdf file opens. On the second page it is described as;
SD-988400- Dummy Supressor (Special Order) $499.00

http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/defaul ... 35&pid=229

There is no picture but you can see suppressors at the Brugger and Thomet website.
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You can buy fake suppressor for $29.99

http://www.tacticalinc.com/22lr-fake-su ... -p-36.html
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Reverend Ron wrote:You can buy fake suppressor for $29.99

http://www.tacticalinc.com/22lr-fake-su ... -p-36.html

The OP stated in his first post that the gun is a TP9 which is 9mm and it has special lugs to attach.

The link you posted is for 22lr, not 9mm and doesn't have the lugs that he needs to attach to his TP9.
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thats a rip off eh
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bluejay wrote:Thank you. As long as it attenuates like the $500 one, I believe I am safe.
It should make it really quite, if you read the description (the thing is solid, NO HOLE). :oops:

Quote from link: "B&T TP9 Dummy Supressor
FOR DISPLAY ONLY,
This Dummy suppressor is completely solid, you can not shoot firearm with this device attached"
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PostalGlock'n wrote:
bluejay wrote:Thank you. As long as it attenuates like the $500 one, I believe I am safe.
It should make it really quite, if you read the description (the thing is solid, NO HOLE). :oops:

Quote from link: "B&T TP9 Dummy Supressor
FOR DISPLAY ONLY,
This Dummy suppressor is completely solid, you can not shoot firearm with this device attached"
Wow, I never made it to the website to see it. They are really selling the dummy suppressor thats solid barstock for $500CDN?
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PostalGlock'n wrote:
Quote from link: "B&T TP9 Dummy Supressor
FOR DISPLAY ONLY,
.................... you can not shoot firearm with this device attached
How is that possible?
I would think that would be a bad shitstorm waiting to happen to somebody with no through hole. :shock:

If they can sell it to someone for that kind of cash......I need to go back to work and build fake cans. :wink:
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twodollarbill wrote:
PostalGlock'n wrote:
Quote from link: "B&T TP9 Dummy Supressor
FOR DISPLAY ONLY,
.................... you can not shoot firearm with this device attached
How is that possible?
I would think that would be a bad shitstorm waiting to happen to somebody with no through hole. :shock:

If they can sell it to someone for that kind of cash......I need to go back to work and build fake cans. :wink:
How? If its a display model only then it wouldn't be accidentally taken to the range. They are perfectly fine, seen many done that way and never heard of anyone every firing a round through it.

Those arent generally sold to the public anyways.
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Jee Whiz, it's worse than I thought? I didn't notice the part about "solid".
That would make a lot of noise as the gun blows up, sheesh.
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My bad!!!
Kind of like an Uzi display barrel then.
I was thinking this solid chunk was being slid over a ready to fire weapon. :lol:
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bluejay wrote:Jee Whiz, it's worse than I thought? I didn't notice the part about "solid".
That would make a lot of noise as the gun blows up, sheesh.
You can make one for about $30 with the lug feature. Anodize it at home and never look back. Thats what I would do.
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Bendersquint wrote:
Reverend Ron wrote:You can buy fake suppressor for $29.99

http://www.tacticalinc.com/22lr-fake-su ... -p-36.html
The OP stated in his first post that the gun is a TP9 which is 9mm and it has special lugs to attach.
The link you posted is for 22lr, not 9mm and doesn't have the lugs that he needs to attach to his TP9.
My bad
http://www.tacticalinc.com/pistol-fake- ... -1426.html
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Reverend Ron wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
Reverend Ron wrote:You can buy fake suppressor for $29.99

http://www.tacticalinc.com/22lr-fake-su ... -p-36.html
The OP stated in his first post that the gun is a TP9 which is 9mm and it has special lugs to attach.
The link you posted is for 22lr, not 9mm and doesn't have the lugs that he needs to attach to his TP9.
My bad
http://www.tacticalinc.com/pistol-fake- ... -1426.html
Did you read what I posted? He has a TP9, wiht special lugs, that fake can WILL NOT WORK since it doesn't have the special lugs for attachment.
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499 for a chunk of metal without even a hole through it?
They are out of stock? Does this mean Canadians are gullible? Is this a joke or a real product?
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buy the can for $29.00 then have the lugs mount made .
thats cheaper than paying $500.00
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