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I was on another site and an individual commented that he had a catastrophic failure with his homemade suppressor on a 7 ½ inch barrel. :shock: See attached link.
Couple of questions
1. Can a tube come away unscathed from this type of failure as claimed?
2. On a 7 ½ inch AR15 type rifle, would a cone work better than a mono-core?
3. It was also stated by another that even Inconel would not last on a 7 1/2 inch barrel
Your input please.


http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=91557
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1rosta wrote:I was on another site and an individual commented that he had a catastrophic failure with his homemade suppressor on a 7 ½ inch barrel. :shock: See attached link.
Couple of questions
1. Can a tube come away unscathed from this type of failure as claimed?
2. On a 7 ½ inch AR15 type rifle, would a cone work better than a mono-core?
3. It was also stated by another that even Inconel would not last on a 7 1/2 inch barrel
Your input please.


http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=91557
Can you post the pictures? Unless we are registered we can't see them.

1 - Entirely possible that a tube would be salvageable if it was a catastrophic failure, but again until we see the pics we can't make that full assessment. More often than not the answer is no.

2 - You are asking for problems suppressed a 7.5" AR15 in 5.56mm.

3 - They are correct Inconel would be chewed up really quickly in a 7.5"....ask me how I know!

HE can't legally repair it himself, he can send it to an 07/02 to have it repaired though but he can not do the work himself.
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I just read his other replies about using a 1/8" wall aluminum tube and no damage.

If it killed the monocore it would have destroyed the tube.

I don't buy it at all that it wasn't damaged.
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Bendersquint wrote:...
Can you post the pictures? Unless we are registered we can't see them.
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No tube present in the post failure picture.

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doubloon wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:...
Can you post the pictures? Unless we are registered we can't see them.
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No tube present in the post failure picture.

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With that much destruction unless the core was shot at 5 feet into a steel wall that tube is destroyed no if ands or buts.

In order for there to be that kind of damage to the tube the endcap threads or tube threads had to have been ripped out.

I will put money on it that he illegally replaced his registered tube.
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Thanks, I was just trying to load photos. :mrgreen:
I didn't think a tube could make it through this.
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1rosta wrote:Thanks, I was just trying to load photos. :mrgreen:
I didn't think a tube could make it through this.
It wouldn't not with that damage. If there were skid marks on the tube then its reasonable to believe that the cap came off and the core shot down range but with it crunched the way it is there is no doubt in my mind that the tube didn't survive.

Its amazing what some people post online.
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Wow, thats some serious damage!....
Nobody was hurt?!
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rqlasl wrote:Wow, thats some serious damage!....
Nobody was hurt?!
Nothing in the post and magically the tube survived without any problems and the tube is aluminum as well!
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1rosta wrote:I was on another site and an individual commented that he had a catastrophic failure with his homemade suppressor on a 7 ½ inch barrel. :shock: See attached link.
Couple of questions
1. Can a tube come away unscathed from this type of failure as claimed?
2. On a 7 ½ inch AR15 type rifle, would a cone work better than a mono-core?
3. It was also stated by another that even Inconel would not last on a 7 1/2 inch barrel
Your input please.


http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=91557
Glad nobody was injured....kinda supports the no aluminum and no shorter than 10.5 inches guidelines. That 25000+psi pressure out the muzzle of a "pistol" barrel is a bitch.....guessing it kicked pretty hard to
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Bendersquint wrote:
rqlasl wrote:Wow, thats some serious damage!....
Nobody was hurt?!
Nothing in the post and magically the tube survived without any problems and the tube is aluminum as well!
Yeah, in the post he said all he had to do was chase the threads on the tube and they're fine ... I find it hard to believe the tube is still round or that the chased thread don't have some kind of torque damage. A hi-res post of a post failure tube picture would go a long way toward making me a believer.
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doubloon wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
rqlasl wrote:Wow, thats some serious damage!....
Nobody was hurt?!
Nothing in the post and magically the tube survived without any problems and the tube is aluminum as well!
Yeah, in the post he said all he had to do was chase the threads on the tube and they're fine ... I find it hard to believe the tube is still round or that the chased thread don't have some kind of torque damage. A hi-res post of a post failure tube picture would go a long way toward making me a believer.
It didn't happen, if he had to chase the threads it lost its integrity. Its aluminum not SS.

He is totally full of it. I can't believe for a nanosecond that the tube isn't damaged. That core must have been shot into a rock at point blank to suffer that kind of damage without hurting the tube.
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