Cracked Pmags

Rob01 · Post by **Rob01** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:17 pm

What you guys think of this?
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthr ... ber=968055

Anyone else have this problem?

1_ar_newbie · Post by **1_ar_newbie** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:44 pm

I have over 100 pmags and have never had this problem...

monkeytoys · Post by **monkeytoys** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:18 pm

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25395

DrDrake on m4carbine.net

Triad Tactical,

First of all, thanks for the feed back both here on the forum and direct.

Second, there were some changes in the molding process last year that corrected the cracking issue. Since the correction there have been a very limited number of PMAG's with this issue and most have been tracked to heavy abuse.

We have seen around .02% of the mags shipped in the last two plus years returned with cracking issues. Of this .02% we have replaced the bodies no questions asked.

We are always improving our process to ensure the highest quality product, no BS.

Cheers.

noiseless · Post by **noiseless** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:49 pm

I noted a Mold change in PMAGs I have bought in the last year and when I asked about it at SHOT this year, I was told the change was made to strengthen the spine of the magazines.

I have a bunch of PMAGs and have used them frequently. I've had zero issues with them.

One piece of advise about magazines I have taken to heart . . . "Don't fall in love with any magazine. If it starts fucking up, ditch it."

At the point that I have a PMAG go south, I'll address it with Magpul. Until then, I continue to shoot the piss out of them

1_ar_newbie · Post by **1_ar_newbie** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:31 pm

noiseless wrote:
One piece of advise about magazines I have taken to heart . . . "Don't fall in love with any magazine. If it starts fucking up, ditch it."

Very true...

I learned that one the hard way!

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:18 am

You would think that people had never damaged a USGI mag. I've broken PMAGs, and I've ruined USGI mags. The difference is that a cracked PMAG continues to run, and a USGI mag with minimal damage to its feedlips does not.

This picture is part of a much larger review which is shown at the below link. This mag still functions quite well despise the intentional abuse it was given.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/sh ... .php?t=312

apochachuva · Post by **apochachuva** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:27 pm

I'd like to see a full magazine shot, and see if it works after that.

1_ar_newbie · Post by **1_ar_newbie** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:22 pm

apochachuva wrote:I'd like to see a full magazine shot, and see if it works after that.

Well, The guys at the Gun Gallery ran over a full one with a party bus...

It cracked.... the third time they drove over it!!

O'yea... and it worked after that!

apochachuva · Post by **apochachuva** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:27 pm

1_ar_newbie wrote:
apochachuva wrote:I'd like to see a full magazine shot, and see if it works after that.
Well, The guys at the Gun Gallery ran over a full one with a party bus...

It cracked.... the third time they drove over it!!

O'yea... and it worked after that!

Neat, but I'm betting that you can get some cook off when you hit the rounds and I want to see what kind of damage that does.

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:53 pm

apochachuva wrote:I'd like to see a full magazine shot, and see if it works after that.

Take a look at the thread I posted, we did a lot more than simply fire one magazines after we broke the spine. We also tore parts of the feedlips off, and shots rounds through it eventually breaking the spring, and it still fed and fired without any problems.

I've got a friend who ran over a PMAG in the desert with an armored tractor trailer they were running convoys with( I forget the designation). He laughed at the guys with trucks and buses.

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:54 pm

apochachuva wrote: Neat, but I'm betting that you can get some cook off when you hit the rounds and I want to see what kind of damage that does.

Cook off? Thats from heat.... No rounds detonate from getting run over in the PMAGs, I've done it plenty of times proving it to guys on my department, and other agencies.

BWT · Post by **BWT** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:53 pm

Stickman wrote:
apochachuva wrote: Neat, but I'm betting that you can get some cook off when you hit the rounds and I want to see what kind of damage that does.

Cook off? Thats from heat.... No rounds detonate from getting run over in the PMAGs, I've done it plenty of times proving it to guys on my department, and other agencies.

What if someone were to grill a PMAG, not saying I have a PMG, but, I think you could cook one off then. Which clearly makes it less of a product then USGI's.

What if someone wanted a Well Done PMAG.

apochachuva · Post by **apochachuva** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:25 pm

Stickman wrote:
apochachuva wrote: Neat, but I'm betting that you can get some cook off when you hit the rounds and I want to see what kind of damage that does.

Cook off? Thats from heat.... No rounds detonate from getting run over in the PMAGs, I've done it plenty of times proving it to guys on my department, and other agencies.

Not from running over, from shooting it.
loaded AK mag shot with an AK from the boxotruth:
http://theboxotruth.com/images/9-8.jpg

BWT · Post by **BWT** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:46 pm

apochachuva wrote:
Stickman wrote:
apochachuva wrote: Neat, but I'm betting that you can get some cook off when you hit the rounds and I want to see what kind of damage that does.

Cook off? Thats from heat.... No rounds detonate from getting run over in the PMAGs, I've done it plenty of times proving it to guys on my department, and other agencies.
Not from running over, from shooting it.
loaded AK mag shot with an AK from the boxotruth:
http://theboxotruth.com/images/9-8.jpg

They shot an unloaded mag, but not a loaded mag, but I also think the bullet detonating inside of the magazine would be outside of the design parameters.

But I would like to see it tested.

apochachuva · Post by **apochachuva** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:40 pm

BWT wrote:
apochachuva wrote:
Stickman wrote:

Cook off? Thats from heat.... No rounds detonate from getting run over in the PMAGs, I've done it plenty of times proving it to guys on my department, and other agencies.
Not from running over, from shooting it.
loaded AK mag shot with an AK from the boxotruth:
http://theboxotruth.com/images/9-8.jpg
They shot an unloaded mag, but not a loaded mag, but I also think the bullet detonating inside of the magazine would be outside of the design parameters.

But I would like to see it tested.

They did both. And I know this is outside parameters, but I think the pmag has a chance.

PPGMD · Post by **PPGMD** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:44 pm

apochachuva wrote:I'd like to see a full magazine shot, and see if it works after that.

Not full but it was shot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUFHEJFf-E