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I say go buy one here if you don't have one: http://westernsportonline.com/index.php ... cts_id=168
or here: http://www.dsgarms.com/index.cfm/produc ... -black.cfm (this is where I ordered 2)
or here: http://www.dsgarms.com/index.cfm/produc ... -black.cfm (this is where I ordered 2)
Picked mine up from the post office, and it's under the tree! Of course, my family's custom is to open one present on Christmas Eve... MWHAHAHAHA!!!!
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It's a lot beefier than I had expected. When used as directed, it is comfortable. My wrist isn't bent, my fingers aren't tense. The three nubs, one at the front, one on the bottom, and one between middle and forefinger work well to index your hand in a repeatable manner. That's important to me, as I am inexperienced. The rearmost nub is where I index my pinky so as to position the rest of my hand repeatedly. The front nub is an integral handstop, sufficiently large enough for such use (SBR ready!). You can replace the middle nub with a ribbed panel, but I never will as it is well positioned for me to lay my middle finger against. The front half of the AFG has protective wings which extend to cover the rail and I believe are there to serve two functions. One would be to keep your fingers or gloves from getting pinched by the rail. The other reason I see is to house the thumb rests that need to sit higher than the rail so as to keep your wrist in the correct position. Using the left side thumb rest in conjunction with the other three nubs on the underside of the AFG, I can get a pretty repeatable grip on it.
The underside of the AFG is ribbed everywhere that your fingers are meant to be positioned. I do not wear gloves to shoot often, but it works with and without gloves to my satisfaction. The AFG is fully ambidextrous as everything other than the bolts and markings are symmetrical.
I received the black AFG, which is completely blackened. All nuts and bolts and pieces are matte black. Pre-production pictures showed shiny unfinished bolts, and this is not the case with the unit I have here. It has two hex bolts used to change out the nub/ribbed panel and one rail engaging bolt near the center of the unit, directly above the replaceable panel.
It is almost impossible to hold in a manner like a pistol, and you can only get any purchase with your thumb and forefinger, and only those two if you try hard. But that's a stretch. You reaaallly have to try hard to do so, and you hand just slips off after a couple seconds. Maneuvering a gun while trying to hold it like a pistol grip is impossible. I cannot engage the webbing of my thumb, I can only squeeze the back of the unit between my thumb and forefinger. It is very uncomfortable to do so. I feel that a KAC handstop is a better "pistol grip" than the AFG, even though both fail heavily in trying to be that. Actually, now that I think about it, the hand stop at the front of the AFG is more of a pistol grip than the rear.
I wonder if there is a definition of what a pistol grip is somewhere in CT law. I know there was in CA law, and I seem to remember it having something to do with the webbing of one's thumb.
The hole in the unit cannot be used in any manner. I can get my pinky finger into it, but not in any manner that would also allow me to grip the gun. I cannot fit any of my other fingers into it, not even the first pad of my thumb. The hole shouldn't have anything to do with it possibly being considered an evil feature of some sort. The AFG comes apart in halves longitudinally, so filling that hole would be very easy for an end user if ever a law required doing so.
In closing, I really like the integrated hand stop. That saves me money and having to find a hand stop that would work with the AFG. And just for the heck of it, I just gave the AFG a good try in the usual manner that I test out something that I trust to be certified badass. I tried to break it. I failed. Good stuff! I'm sure I could do it with a sledge, but I just used the edge of a table and some elbow grease. Did we even have plastics like this 10 years ago?
The underside of the AFG is ribbed everywhere that your fingers are meant to be positioned. I do not wear gloves to shoot often, but it works with and without gloves to my satisfaction. The AFG is fully ambidextrous as everything other than the bolts and markings are symmetrical.
I received the black AFG, which is completely blackened. All nuts and bolts and pieces are matte black. Pre-production pictures showed shiny unfinished bolts, and this is not the case with the unit I have here. It has two hex bolts used to change out the nub/ribbed panel and one rail engaging bolt near the center of the unit, directly above the replaceable panel.
It is almost impossible to hold in a manner like a pistol, and you can only get any purchase with your thumb and forefinger, and only those two if you try hard. But that's a stretch. You reaaallly have to try hard to do so, and you hand just slips off after a couple seconds. Maneuvering a gun while trying to hold it like a pistol grip is impossible. I cannot engage the webbing of my thumb, I can only squeeze the back of the unit between my thumb and forefinger. It is very uncomfortable to do so. I feel that a KAC handstop is a better "pistol grip" than the AFG, even though both fail heavily in trying to be that. Actually, now that I think about it, the hand stop at the front of the AFG is more of a pistol grip than the rear.
I wonder if there is a definition of what a pistol grip is somewhere in CT law. I know there was in CA law, and I seem to remember it having something to do with the webbing of one's thumb.
The hole in the unit cannot be used in any manner. I can get my pinky finger into it, but not in any manner that would also allow me to grip the gun. I cannot fit any of my other fingers into it, not even the first pad of my thumb. The hole shouldn't have anything to do with it possibly being considered an evil feature of some sort. The AFG comes apart in halves longitudinally, so filling that hole would be very easy for an end user if ever a law required doing so.
In closing, I really like the integrated hand stop. That saves me money and having to find a hand stop that would work with the AFG. And just for the heck of it, I just gave the AFG a good try in the usual manner that I test out something that I trust to be certified badass. I tried to break it. I failed. Good stuff! I'm sure I could do it with a sledge, but I just used the edge of a table and some elbow grease. Did we even have plastics like this 10 years ago?
Does anyone have a suggestion how to integrate a surefire scout light with the AFG? I currently have a tango down grip with my surefire scout attached to the rail. I would like to use the AFG, but I dont want to have to give up my light.
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