Suppressed AR10A4?

Counter-Insurgent · Post by **Counter-Insurgent** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:17 pm

Please forgive my ultra - noobness. In my search for the best muzzlebrake for my AR10A4 (OPS INC?) , a highly reputable gunsmith suggested that I consider a suppressor instead. Quiet is great, but I am primarily interested in the fastest possible follow- up shots. I have heard that it is possible to watch the bullet impact from the optic of the suppressed rifle. (.308)
Any feedback would be appreciated . Rem 700VLS .308
AA 6.5 Grendel Hunter
Bushy 16" HBAR
AR10A4
Imbel FAL shorty
Eagle Firearms LW 5.56
Rifles listed in order of accuracy

lawndart · Post by **lawndart** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:11 pm

You can have your cake and eat it too.
A supressor is the best muzzle brake. Some of them can increase your weapons accuracy.
I have some screw on cans that work just fine, but am going to get some of the newer models that attach over a muzzle brake. I'm looking at the RD Precision model. Kevin from AAC can tell you about his new quick detachables. That is what my girlfriend is getting.
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chrisva · Post by **chrisva** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:38 pm

what are you shooting? A can will be queit but if you doing running and gunning stuff 3gun you might want a brake. the JP tank brake is very good but very loud. if your shooting long range comp sniper matches were there is little movement then a can will do great.

William Perkins · Post by **William Perkins** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:51 pm

chrisva wrote:if you doing running and gunning stuff 3gun you might want a brake.

This is an important point since the addition of a suppressor would put a competitior into 'open' class if it is an IPSC sanctioned match. It is dumb but suppressors fit the definition of an 'open' muzzle brake since suppressors are >1" in diameter and >1.75" in length.

Some of the matches like Rocky Mountain 3-gun, and I believe Kyle Lambs, make exceptions to this rule since they are using 'IMG' rules instead of IPSC rules. This means that the Army team, and other SF shooters that are participating in these matches don't get thrown in with Matt Burkett and the other professional 'open' shooters. Besides, even though they have suppressors on their rifles, the rest of their gear is 'limited' compliant, and having a suppressor on your gun is NOT a competitive advantage.

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Counter-Insurgent · Post by **Counter-Insurgent** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:02 am

Not shooting any matches yet, just trying to maximize the potential of this rifle for possible security work. Thanks for the reply lawndart, your input coincides with much that I've read . I'll probably opt for a threaded suppressor ,5/8 x24tpi .
Given the fact that the AR10A4 is already a light recoiling .308, would it be possible to maintain a visual on a target via rifle optic while taking multiple shots?

lawndart · Post by **lawndart** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:33 am

Yes indeed.

Kevin/AAC · Post by **Kevin/AAC** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:55 am

We designed and developed the silencers for the SASS program (AR10) for Armalite and Colt. Armalite is offering our silencer with their SASS entry to civilians and law enforcement. The S3R silencer will debut at the SHOT SHOW in a few weeks. It exceeds the SASS requirements for accuracy, flash reduction, size, weight, and sound. It is an over the barrel design, incorporates the standard Armalite flash hider and is a rigid fast-attach mount.

lawndart · Post by **lawndart** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:42 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, time to save some money up.

kgw · Post by **kgw** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:49 pm

Surefire makes an excellent one in my opinion! Mine dampens the sound dramatically, it cut the recoil by 90% or better. I can easily watch bullet impact. I just wish I had done this, years ago.

gunguy · Post by **gunguy** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:03 am

Most your .308 cans are going work great i use a yhm q.d. its a little heavy,but its stout.The one thing i noticed is the gas blowback into the shooters face. I havent bought a gas buster charging handle yet ,but i think it might help. I shoot my lr.308 without ear plugs,its alot of fun.

michealj · Post by **michealj** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:25 pm

Suppressing my AR-10 is the best improvement I made to the weapon. I do not run and gun with this rifle because it weighs a ton, but while I'm watching the rounds impact the 600 yard plate, I forget all about how much she weighs.
Between the suppressor and the weight I have no problems with follow up shots, and watching the bullet impact is common practice on anything 200 yards and out. If you have the means to do it, do it and don't look back.

bigbigpig · Post by **bigbigpig** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:49 pm

michealj - That is a sharp looking rifle! Is that a 3rd model?

michealj · Post by **michealj** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:33 am

bigbigpig wrote:michealj - That is a sharp looking rifle! Is that a 3rd model?

Thanks, it is a 12th model.

bigbigpig · Post by **bigbigpig** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:38 pm

I have a 12th 5.56 on the way for an SPR but may add a 12th 7.62 to that order to do an AR-10 like that. I love Ops mounting system and that 12th looks perfect on that rifle.

gcrookston · Post by **gcrookston** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:32 am

just got the can for my Super SASS and am looking forward to trying it out. They YHM will also be used on my M4. I've not had a chance to shoot it with the can yet, but the AR10's recoil is very light without a brake.

gunguy · Post by **gunguy** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:04 am

Just took my yhm out and tried it out on my ar10 for the first time and i was impressed to say the least.I also put a jp adjustable gas block on it.Between the two i could shoot it all day without a sour sholder.I also put a pri gas buster on it,which didnt do a whole lot.

bmanka · Post by **bmanka** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:27 pm

michaelj,

What kind of barrel do you have on that AR10? Is it a Noveski? What length is it?

Great looking setup.

gcrookston · Post by **gcrookston** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:50 am

gunguy wrote:Just took my yhm out and tried it out on my ar10 for the first time and i was impressed to say the least.I also put a jp adjustable gas block on it.Between the two i could shoot it all day without a sour sholder.I also put a pri gas buster on it,which didnt do a whole lot.

Looking forward to trying mine. The super SASS comes with the PRI gas-buster. I took a hint from a friend of mine and applied some silicon around the GB handle...

michealj · Post by **michealj** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:42 pm

bmanka wrote:michaelj,

What kind of barrel do you have on that AR10? Is it a Noveski? What length is it?

Great looking setup.

It's an 18" Noveske contoured for the Ops Inc. 12th model.
Thanks.

saltydecimator · Post by **saltydecimator** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:17 pm

i have seen bullets flying with a ruger 45 and my 22s but not the rifle calibers. what causes this? is it just better ability for the mind and eye to focus cuz their istnt the huge blast?

KevinB · Post by **KevinB** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:29 am

You will not see the actually bullet -- you can see swirl, and bullet strike from 5.56mm, 7.62mm etc.

You can see .45 since its a slow round, you may even beat it to the target walking quickly

OPSINC makes a nice thread on can for the 7.62

horizonanr · Post by **horizonanr** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:00 am

KevinB wrote:You will not see the actually bullet -- you can see swirl, and bullet strike from 5.56mm, 7.62mm etc.

Actually, with the right conditions (sun at your back) it is possible to observe the flight of a bullet if the light reflects off the tail just so.

falar · Post by **falar** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:53 am

Kevin/AAC wrote:We designed and developed the silencers for the SASS program (AR10) for Armalite and Colt. Armalite is offering our silencer with their SASS entry to civilians and law enforcement. The S3R silencer will debut at the SHOT SHOW in a few weeks. It exceeds the SASS requirements for accuracy, flash reduction, size, weight, and sound. It is an over the barrel design, incorporates the standard Armalite flash hider and is a rigid fast-attach mount.

Any updates on when this will be available?

If it performs on par with the SCAR-H then I think I will finally decide on a .308 can.

Norseviking · Post by **Norseviking** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:42 am

I am looking for a twist and lock type can, anyone have any suggestion as far as brands go for my AR-10A4. Any other info you can share would be more than welcome.

Old18C · Post by **Old18C** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:09 pm

After breaking in the AR-10A4 in decided the EOTech was not enough optic and put 3x9 Buris Electro dot on it as the rifle would shoot better than I could see with the EOTech. This is a Surefire FA762K that I switch between this rifle, an M1A, and a Steyr 300 Win Mag.

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