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http://www.military-technologies.net/20 ... d-carbine/
And the new M855 A1 ammo provides more stopping power at shorter distances. The older round had to get into a yaw dependency for maximum effect. If it hit the enemy straight, it would punch right through them. The new ammo is not yaw dependent. If it hits the enemy, he is going down.
Are they serious? More BS.
The goal is to improve the gas system by allowing less gas and dirt in, or replacing it with a conversion kit similar to the HNK16 that would put a piston in the M4.
What is an HNK16?
Both have their benefits and detractors, the colonel said. The piston reduces the number of moving parts and provides better stability, but there is “a little more metal on metal,” which can diminish durability and accelerate fatigue.
Piston guns have fewer moving parts?
A gas-impingement system is far smoother in operation, and supporters say its reduced heat and carbon deposits will decrease malfunctions. But the gas system requires a lot more elbow grease to get it clean.
Cool. Gas impingement has less heat and carbon and fewer malfunctions.
It can have a gas or piston system.
Cool. A pistol system which does not use gas.
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I swear I didn' write that.

LOL.

Sadly, I only agee with the "cooler and less carbon" part.
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I think my favorite part is the HNK16 bit. I've seen that before, and it's a clear sign of someone who knows absolutely nothing about guns who interviewed someone, took notes, and wrote down what they 'thought' they heard. "Ech 'n Kay" = H&K.

They probably sat there for the longest time wondering how rising gas prices might affect the rifles our soldiers are using overseas.
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ArevaloSOCOM wrote:Sadly, I only agee with the "cooler and less carbon" part.
They said DI had less carbon.
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OMG.....you're right!

I retract my statement. I'd like a disclaimer to the DI world, GP owners are usually much better, smarter and Handsome than this....this guy's article is NOT indictative of the average GP owner.

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Their source: http://www.armytimes.com

If it is anything like the MC times it is a total smut mag that is positioned right before the registers of exchanges, just like the National Enquirer and Sun magazine at your local supermarket.

The cover story for the last MC times? "Spice":

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Trust me, while testing the SCAR and IAR we saw all kinds of misinformation come out of that publication.
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I wish the military would make it part of the deal that the results be public. So if you submit a rifle, you agree that the results will be on a website.

That way, taxpayers can learn what to buy. Why should only the very top winner get recognition?

If such and such a gun is near the top, people should know it. If it failed, people should know it.

My bet - they will keep M4s but make Colt give up the monopoly. Why else would it not be in the competition? They don't want it to lose and then have no choice but to change. This way they can keep it but be free of Colt.
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That was so poorly written, I have no idea what was going on in there.

But, like in the story, I do want a gun that will "surely put a dent in my enemy's medical record". ha.
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silencertalk wrote:Piston guns have fewer moving parts?
well, a piston = 1
versus
fluid particles of gas in gas tube = millions


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Bowen1911 wrote:
silencertalk wrote:Piston guns have fewer moving parts?
well, a piston = 1
versus
fluid particles of gas in gas tube = millions


they are 100% almost right about something.
Which has more particles though, the gas or the piston?

The Piston's denser.
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BWT wrote:
Bowen1911 wrote:
silencertalk wrote:Piston guns have fewer moving parts?
well, a piston = 1
versus
fluid particles of gas in gas tube = millions


they are 100% almost right about something.
Which has more particles though, the gas or the piston?

The Piston's denser.
I am not familiar with the piston system, so I don't now how it compares. to the DI

the piston can be represented as a single particle though. viscosity won't come into play either if this is going to become a technical/nerd pissing match.

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You don't have to be a 6 foot 4 Olympic powerlifter and streetfighting god to know the difference between a 'part' and a 'particle'. :P
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you cant spell part of the word "particle" without the word part.

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Bowen1911 wrote: I am not familiar with the piston system, so I don't now how it compares. to the DI

the piston can be represented as a single particle though. viscosity won't come into play either if this is going to become a technical/nerd pissing match.

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