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We made a couple with shrouds so that it wouldnt have to be SBR'ed. They dont look too bad with a full length rail. I will say it looks kinda goofy with a carbine length handgaurd. We just made a normal 9" bbl, threaded, then screwed on a solid bar of aluminum that we turned to the ID of the shroud. This let us align the shroud to ensure that it was concentricish. Not a hard task.
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jdj wrote: Since you're looking strictly subs, why not go 9" with a 7" barrel-shroud to contain that thread-on can ala Tacsol SBX, then the overall length would be ~16" with the can without paying the SBR tax.

I was thinking for an AR something like this would be cool:
http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/ima ... I-SS15.gif

Using a 9" 300 blk barrel with the barrel extension pinned to the freefloat handguard to avoid the SBR tax. Problem is, I'd need a SOT to do the work for me because until it was pinned,owning the Barrel and upper would constitute "constructive possession" of an SBR.

The other problem would be it would only work with thread-on cans or the older 18 tooth 7.62-sd

ETA: methinks an older 18-tooth 7.62 SD would work very nicely for this.
I didnt even realize this was legal? But I'm really more interested in the bolt gun than anything else... still nice to know.
BTW, it would be a/ a ThunderTrap, so it's treaded... no issues.
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Blackwind wrote:
82nd airborne wrote:Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Rem 700/7 $249

Savage $249
We are currently shipping. Lifetime Warranty.

Currently working on ACR barrels as well.

http://www.deltacompanyarms.com

Military/LE discounts.
If you can provide a department letterhead stating that you will be using our product to keep illegals on the other side of the border, we give an even better discount.

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Sounds like I need to order one this week.
Edited: found them, so who do I call
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firefighter509 wrote:
Blackwind wrote:
82nd airborne wrote:Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Rem 700/7 $249

Savage $249
We are currently shipping. Lifetime Warranty.

Currently working on ACR barrels as well.

http://www.deltacompanyarms.com

Military/LE discounts.
If you can provide a department letterhead stating that you will be using our product to keep illegals on the other side of the border, we give an even better discount.

Regards,
Aaron Fouraker
Co-Owner
Delta Company Arms, LLC
(918) 332-6503
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Sounds like I need to order one this week.
Edited: found them, so who do I call
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Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Nice prices on the barrels, does this include anything else or just the barrel; whose barrel blanks are you using?
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Thankyou sir.
That is with a headspaced extension, muzzle threaded 5/8-24, KG GunKote baked on. We have a lathe set up with a sprayer built onto the leadscrew so that we get the coating as uniform as possible. We are using Green Mountain and McGowen. Lately, we have been using green mountain almost exclusively, as they are much more pleasant to deal with.
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Oh yea, I like your background on your web page too.
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jdj wrote:
GlockandRoll wrote:I want a 16", stricktly for subsonics... am I to expect 8" twist to be my best option?
Not sure about 3 grove, seems like you need at least 5 to stabilize it... but I'm not certain on that and have no experience with this caliber, or 300 whisper for that matter.

All I know is the 18.5" .308 10" twist is difficult and potentially dangerous to hand-load subsonic rounds with, and the only ones I've found worth a s--t were EBR thumper and I want a heavier bullet than that.

Since you're looking strictly subs, why not go 9" with a 7" barrel-shroud to contain that thread-on can ala Tacsol SBX, then the overall length would be ~16" with the can without paying the SBR tax.

I was thinking for an AR something like this would be cool:
Image

Using a 9" 300 blk barrel with the barrel extension pinned to the freefloat handguard to avoid the SBR tax. Problem is, I'd need a SOT to do the work for me because until it was pinned,owning the Barrel and upper would constitute "constructive possession" of an SBR.

The other problem would be it would only work with thread-on cans or the older 18 tooth 7.62-sd

ETA: methinks an older 18-tooth 7.62 SD would work very nicely for this.
This is exactly what I have been planning on doing. I was kinda pissed I bought the 7.62sd as an 18T, but now its going to work perfectly for this. I will set it up so the handguard comes out to 16" and when the can is put on, the can will protrude past about a half inch, easy to thread on and off. Just like my tacsol SBX.

I have a couple pistol AR15s and pistol lowers so no constructive posession for me!

Will this 15" handguard get the barrel to 16"?
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I just placed my order today from Aaron at Delta Company Arms....what an awesome guy to deal with. He went out of his way to answer my questions and build one to my specs for an unbelievably low price! Buy with confidence.
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You are too kind, Thank you.
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I'm still sold on the idea of putting a 16" BBL on my Salvage, otherwise this would be a perfect solution for me!

If you guys know of a smoking deal for .300AAC blackout barrels that fit a 10FP accutrigger, that I can order threaded to my AWC spec, I'm ready w/cash in hand.
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whisperquiet wrote:I just placed my order today from Aaron at Delta Company Arms....what an awesome guy to deal with. He went out of his way to answer my questions and build one to my specs for an unbelievably low price! Buy with confidence.

What were your specs ?
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My specs are:

300 BLK
10.5"
Medium Contour
5/8x24 Thread
Bead Blasted Stainless Finish
Pistol Length Gas System
.750" at Gas Block
1:8

....essentially, same specs as a Noveske at just over half the price....and I already have my PRI adjustable gas block, so I don't have to pay for parts I'm not going to use.
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82nd airborne wrote:Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Rem 700/7 $249

Savage $249
We are currently shipping. Lifetime Warranty.

Currently working on ACR barrels as well.

http://www.deltacompanyarms.com

Military/LE discounts.
If you can provide a department letterhead stating that you will be using our product to keep illegals on the other side of the border, we give an even better discount.

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Any idea what the price on the ACR barrels will be?
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Table Rock Arms wrote:
82nd airborne wrote:Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Rem 700/7 $249

Savage $249
We are currently shipping. Lifetime Warranty.

Currently working on ACR barrels as well.

http://www.deltacompanyarms.com

Military/LE discounts.
If you can provide a department letterhead stating that you will be using our product to keep illegals on the other side of the border, we give an even better discount.

Regards,
Aaron Fouraker
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Delta Company Arms, LLC
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Any idea what the price on the ACR barrels will be?

Still working on that, and the sig 556. I dont have a solid price yet, but the profit margins will remain the same, so not much higher.
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Robert or Jason:

Any chance we can get a estimate on the barrel profile or weight for the stripped 16" AAC factory barrels? I'm wondering how it will compare in weight to an AR penceil barrel - looking to possibly do a lightweight build on my KAC christmas cheer setup.
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They are lightish but not necessarily pencil barrel light. I think they weigh about the same as a 14.5 inch M4 barrel but yet optimized for stiffness with no silly design flaws like the odd diameter changes on govt barrels.

The complete upper, with the bolt carrier group, charging handle, KAC 12.5 inch rail, and flash suppressor - is 4lbs, 6.5 ounces.
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rotortuner wrote:
jdj wrote:
GlockandRoll wrote:I want a 16", stricktly for subsonics... am I to expect 8" twist to be my best option?
Not sure about 3 grove, seems like you need at least 5 to stabilize it... but I'm not certain on that and have no experience with this caliber, or 300 whisper for that matter.

All I know is the 18.5" .308 10" twist is difficult and potentially dangerous to hand-load subsonic rounds with, and the only ones I've found worth a s--t were EBR thumper and I want a heavier bullet than that.

Since you're looking strictly subs, why not go 9" with a 7" barrel-shroud to contain that thread-on can ala Tacsol SBX, then the overall length would be ~16" with the can without paying the SBR tax.

I was thinking for an AR something like this would be cool:
Image

Using a 9" 300 blk barrel with the barrel extension pinned to the freefloat handguard to avoid the SBR tax. Problem is, I'd need a SOT to do the work for me because until it was pinned,owning the Barrel and upper would constitute "constructive possession" of an SBR.

The other problem would be it would only work with thread-on cans or the older 18 tooth 7.62-sd

ETA: methinks an older 18-tooth 7.62 SD would work very nicely for this.
This is exactly what I have been planning on doing. I was kinda pissed I bought the 7.62sd as an 18T, but now its going to work perfectly for this. I will set it up so the handguard comes out to 16" and when the can is put on, the can will protrude past about a half inch, easy to thread on and off. Just like my tacsol SBX.

I have a couple pistol AR15s and pistol lowers so no constructive posession for me!

Will this 15" handguard get the barrel to 16"?
CJG
So, I my 2 30 cal cans are an AWC ThunderTrap thread-on, and a SS YHM Phantom QD, which one of these could I use for a short BBL and not pay NFA tax for SBR? I'm a bit confused by this, actually.
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cool, thx
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GlockandRoll wrote:So, I my 2 30 cal cans are an AWC ThunderTrap thread-on, and a SS YHM Phantom QD, which one of these could I use for a short BBL and not pay NFA tax for SBR? I'm a bit confused by this, actually.
All you need to do is permenantly attach a handgard or tube to your barrell that brings the overall length to 16". The barrell could be 7" but the handgard that you pin and weld over is permenantly attached and makes it 16" your suppressor then fits inside. Same idea as this:
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/mm5/merc ... _Code=mgwi
that is a 12" threaded barrell with a permenantly attached 4" sheath that brings the overal length to the legal 16". the supressor fits inside that sheath and sticks out past it about a half inch so you can inscrew it by hand.

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I'm confused about all this handguard talk.... how would you permanently attach a handguard to the barrel?

And how would you get the can on and off?

I think with that end result, I'd just go 16" upper or bite the bullet and SBR a lower and do it right...
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I have to go with Jason on this one. A perm. hangaurd could bring up some problems. If nothing else, Id just attach a shroud to a 9" so you can still get your barrel off.
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82nd airborne wrote:
Table Rock Arms wrote:
82nd airborne wrote:Delta Company Arms, LLC
9" $169
16.5" $249

Rem 700/7 $249

Savage $249
We are currently shipping. Lifetime Warranty.

Currently working on ACR barrels as well.

http://www.deltacompanyarms.com

Military/LE discounts.
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Any idea what the price on the ACR barrels will be?

Still working on that, and the sig 556. I dont have a solid price yet, but the profit margins will remain the same, so not much higher.
Another question. How short can you go on the ACR barrel? Would 9 inch be a possibility?
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I think the ACR we made was 9 inch.
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JasonAAC wrote:
plamondacheq wrote:As far as the barrel goes Black Hole Weaponry only has the balckout barrel in a 1-11 twist.The owner said he was not set up to do a 1-8 in there polygonal 3 groove rifling at this time.He was very informative and great to talk to but so now I looking for another barrel manuf. for my build. Hope this helps.
That is good to know if you want to shoot factory subs.

Jason/rsilvers:

In terms of this quote... BHW has started to undergo testing on 1/11" twist barrels in all lengths offered for pressure and accuracy tests with supersonic and subsonic ammunition. Until further notice, the polygonal rifling, as it is not the same principle as the enfield, the barrels will remain 1/11"... this will allow us to determine if in OUR barrels only, the subsonic and supersonic co-mingling will work in this twist of barrel. The blanks were already available, and the tooling for the twist as well.

Understand, we test all of our barrels for consistency and quality prior to selling to the general public. Stay tuned.
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