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Running w/ CCW

Post by JacksonBrowne » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:37 pm

I'm thinking that a P7-sized gun in a 5.11 shirt or something around the chest is ideal. For those of you who run, do you carry while running? What is your favorite setup?
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by continuity » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:54 am

IMHO, a good post. Age old question. I've found anything that restricts my breathing (around upper body) sucks bad. Shoulder holsters... forget I brought them up. Ankle holsters seem to become like the pea under the princesses mattress and end up either working themselves loose or moving around my ankle and the holster wearing a slice of the top of my foot raw. The fanny pack in the front was tolerable, but tends to bounce.

When and if the real life hated exercise thing includes running outside, I've been wearing a deep conceal belt type thing that lets my PPK rest inside the front of my shorts. (I go no round in the chamber).

Going with the ultimate answer being an elliptical or running machine. Just set your heat on the fish tank. :lol:

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by US Ranger » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:18 pm

Several years ago I T&E'ed a chest pouch for running that worked pretty good if you wanted to carry something larger than a pocket pistol. It was basically a gun fanny pack on a chest harness. I used the front of the pouch to carry an ipod. I have a friend up in Alaska that uses it on her runs to carry a full size m1911 45.
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by GoJohnnyGo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:52 pm

US Ranger wrote:Several years ago I T&E'ed a chest pouch for running that worked pretty good if you wanted to carry something larger than a pocket pistol. It was basically a gun fanny pack on a chest harness. I used the front of the pouch to carry an ipod. I have a friend up in Alaska that uses it on her runs to carry a full size m1911 45.
This sounds pretty good. Do you have any further info on the pouch?

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by 47_MasoN_47 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:49 pm

I have yet to find a real good solution for CC while running or biking. The best solution I've been able to find for running is a Kel Tec P3AT/P32 with the belt clip attached clipped to the front of the shorts IWB. I'm trying to build a holster that I can mount to the bike frame to hold my PPS in. I generally carry it in my under-seat pouch but you can't really get to it easily, so it's more for when I stop somewhere than while actually riding.
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by Stu » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:54 am

I carry a Smith M&P 40c in an Uncle Mike's OWB holster. I usually run at night when it is not too hot to wear pants. Well in the summer it still is. Let's start over.

I haven't run in a while, and not I'm fat. When I have actually run later, it has been cool enough at night that I can wear a pair of light pants with belt loops. In that case, I just wear my OWB holster with a strap that snaps around the grip, and have whatever shirt I'm wearing hang down over it. I have my CCW, and Open Carry is legal where I live, so I don't care too much if it shows, but I still prefer that it doesn't. Running when it is dark always helps with that.

For the summer months, when it is too hot to wear anything but the lightest shorts, I have more trouble. None of my shorts have belt loops so I'll actually probably just sew some on next year. I've tried to wear a 5.11 belt with the OWB holster under my shorts. This helps conceal, but since the belt is just around my waist with no loops, it is really only good for a steady jog. Start sprinting or doing speed play, fartleks, or any kind of Plyometrics, and you'll soon have a gun hullohooping around your stomach.

If you aren't going to have belt loops, I'd say the lightest gun possible is idea. I like the idea of a chest rig, expect the part where I have to run around with a lunch box strapped to my chest. That would easily be the most secure though.

Since you mentioned that you'll be wearing 5.11 pants, then I don't see an issue with just wearing any type of nylon holster. It should be nylon because leather will hold the moisture of your sweat in and rust your gun. My Smith has rusted twice now, and not from running.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by jlwilliams » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:10 am

Great thread.

I've been wrestling with this for a while. I live in a low crime area, but jogging is a place where you are more likely to meet some jackasses pitbull out for his run. Just this week I encountered one but it was in front of it's house and the owner called it back before I maced it.

I haven't found a good solution yet and have been carrying just pepper spray. Not nearly enough.

One thing I've thought about but not yet tried is some sort of wrist band with a P32 in it. That would be light and wouldn't bounce around, but it would lack the punch needed for a serious attacker like a dog or a pissed off jackass who's dog just got shot. I'd really like to go at least 38spl.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by 40G27 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:53 am

JacksonBrowne wrote:For those of you who run, do you carry while running? What is your favorite setup?
Ask an illegal Mexican, they do this all the time, except they don't have the CCW permit.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by US Ranger » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:48 am

GoJohnnyGo wrote:
US Ranger wrote:Several years ago I T&E'ed a chest pouch for running that worked pretty good if you wanted to carry something larger than a pocket pistol. It was basically a gun fanny pack on a chest harness. I used the front of the pouch to carry an ipod. I have a friend up in Alaska that uses it on her runs to carry a full size m1911 45.
This sounds pretty good. Do you have any further info on the pouch?
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by Stu » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:11 am

Instead of the wrist strap, maybe on your bicep or something.

You don't have to be an illegal to carry a gun without a CCW. That's just dumb.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by continuity » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:10 pm

Now that I've thought about it, since I run with Chuck Norris, I don't need a gun. :mrgreen:
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by LavaRed » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:37 pm

continuity wrote:Now that I've thought about it, since I run with Chuck Norris, I don't need a gun. :mrgreen:
Are you serious? :shock:
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by jlwilliams » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:47 pm

LavaRed wrote:
continuity wrote:Now that I've thought about it, since I run with Chuck Norris, I don't need a gun. :mrgreen:
Are you serious? :shock:

Can't be serious. Chuck Norris doesn't run. From anything.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by chrismartin » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:02 pm

Maybe?

http://www.survivalsheath.com/holsters/index.htm

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Other than that, I'd probably find a suitable fanny pack. I'd be afraid they would all bounce around too much.

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Post by jlwilliams » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:17 pm

Stu wrote:Instead of the wrist strap, maybe on your bicep or something.
That's probably good thinking. They make arm bands for running with walkmans. (OK, I know, walkman is an outdated word. Whatever) Thats probably a good place to carry something with minimal bounce since the arm's movement would tend to absorb the shock. It is also discreet since people are accustomed to seeing runners with their tunes on the arm, they would have to look more closely that people generally look to notice any print.

I'll look around at those sorts of rigs designed to carry other stuff and see what I can adapt to carrying the weight of a handgun.

That's the big factor as I see it. The whole proposition of a good running CCW rig has to be based on carrying a light weight weapon. Kel Tec or similar pistols, airweight wheel guns, baby glocks. Stuff like that. A big steel 1911 with a double stack frame is probably not the place to start.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by GlocksInMySocks » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:32 am

chrismartin wrote:Maybe?

http://www.survivalsheath.com/holsters/index.htm

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Other than that, I'd probably find a suitable fanny pack. I'd be afraid they would all bounce around too much.


definitely not this. After mile 2 or 3 i'd want to throw this in a ditch.
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by Neogumby » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:51 am

I would reccomend something like this: http://www.rei.com/product/778453/rei-lode-waistpack

It's relatively cheap, looks like a run of the mill running pack (the maxpedition "concealed" packs aren't fooling anyone). If you're worried about the trigger, I suggest a cheap nylon holster with rubber on the outside so it comes off when you pull the weapon or that one trigger cover from Raven. Even if you got the fancy Raven, you'd only pay a total of $40, which isn't bad for a holster, especially since a pack like that would be able to conceal even larger handguns.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by sha-ul » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:50 pm

what about running with a smart carry holster?
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Post by jandbj » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:10 pm

http://www.thewilderness.com/storepinna ... t=145&pg=1

Wilderness safepacker either as a chest rig or fanny pack.

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Post by Wicked » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:41 pm

Hill People Gear:

http://hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabi ... fault.aspx

I fabricated a tiny Kydex 'holster' to cover just the trigger guard. The 'holster' is attached to a short piece of gutted 550 cord secured to the inside of the pouch. Most pistols will easily fit inside the pouch and require no conventional holster or other retention.

1.) Open pack, 2.) grasp pistol, 3. pull and trigger guard 'holster' pops off. Easy as pie.

This also works well with a pack of any kind, when attached in front to the shoulder straps.
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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by jlwilliams » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:09 am

That would be completely invisible under the reflector vest I wear running. I don't think that the vest would slow down access much either.

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Re: Running w/ CCW

Post by JacksonBrowne » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:40 am

I just ordered one. What size pistol do you carry running and how does it feel?
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Post by Wicked » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:35 pm

Mostly I run with a Glock 19 plus spare mag and light - I know they are in there, but not a big deal.

When I take a Scandium J-Frame - I forget I even have a gun with me.
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Post by silencertalk » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:45 am

I tried a G19 a few times with my regular Comp-Tac IWB holster. It is on the heavy side, and I got some abrasion on my hip.

I have a Tactical Taylor MOLLE chest harness with a Maxpedition pouch on it, and that is pretty good.

I am about to try this - it is an LCP in a http://www.grandfatheroak.com/Stockdesigns.html in a http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?E ... Naga-Hoody

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