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You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by LavaRed » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:22 am

So I stole this scenario from another forum:

There are 100,000 medieval soldiers coming to attack 100 people including you. You get to arm everyone with any modern weapon with practically unlimited amount of ammo, what would you arm everyone with? (Not everybody has to have the same weapon)

My battle plan:

Order of Battle

I'd split my forces into 10 squads of 10 people.

I'd deploy 4 squads as a decoy facing their main force, and keep 2 squads each hidden on either flank of their force. The remaining 2 squads would be held in reserve until called for.

The 4 main squads (Hotel 1,2,3 and 4) would be each equipped with the typical GPMG (MG42's or MG3's), about 5 riflemen with battle rifles (FN FAL), marksman and NCO.


Of the 6 remaining squads, I would have:
2 heavy weapons squads (Echo 1 and 2) armed with Mortars, MK19 grenade launchers, recoilless rifles, etc.),

2 squads of marksmen (Mike 1 and 2) armed with suppressed semi-automatic rifles (probably AR15's chambered in 300BLK) dispersed in concealed nests around the field.

1 sapper squad (Sierra 1) to prepare the battlefield, armed with claymores, bangalores, bouncing betties, etc.

1 motorized (Romeo 1) squad [prolly 2 armoured jeeps or HMMV's with HMG's (M2HB's) and one with a 105mm recoilless rifle).

Deployment

Hotel 1 and 2 would be deployed together in a fire group (alpha) in pre-prepared foxholes, with approximately 25 meters between each man, and 25 meters between squads.

Hotel 3 and 4 would be deployed together in a fire group (bravo) pre-prepared foxholes, with approximately 25 meters between each man, and 25 meters between squads.

There would be 100 meters between fire groups alpha and bravo.

Romeo 1 would be deployed approximately 500 meters behind firegroups alpha and bravo, aligned with the gap between them.

Sierra 1 would have prepared the ground in front of firegroups alpha and bravo with mines and other obstacles in a belt 200 meters deep, extending no closer than 100 meters from their front. They would have also prepared booby trapped trenches 200 meters behind the firegroups' initial position, and a second line of fall-back foxholes 400 meters behind the firegroups' initial position.

All the foxholes should have light wooden coverings designed to fend off arrows and other expected mediaeval projecile weapons. The booby-trapped trench should be left uncovered.

Echo 1 will be deployed 500 meters to the right of firegroup alpha, Echo 2 will be deployed 500 meters to the left of firegroup Bravo. Their fire will be initially aimed at the minefield.

Sierra 1 and 2 would be deployed in sniper nests along the expected linear front of advance of the opposing force no closer than 300 meters and no farther than 600 meters away.


The Battle Plan

Firegroups alpha and bravo will act as the decoy. They will lure the enemy into a pre-selected linear front of advance by directing visible suppressive fire in their general direction. Once the enemy has spotted the firegroups, they should hold fire until the enemy has entered the minefield.

The enemy should be engaged in fully aimed fire as he crosses the minefield by both firegroups. At the same time, Echo 1 and 2 would engage the enemy with suppressive, heavy weapons fire, and Mike 1 and 2 would engage with aimed sniper fire. Targets of priority for Mike 1 and 2 should be enemy unit leaders and riders on horseback).

As the enemy exits the minefield and regroups, firegroups alpha and bravo should fall back to the pre-prepared foxholes 400 meters behind and allow the enemy to advance into the pre-prepared, booby-trapped positions. Once there, they should be pinned down by suppressive fire from firegroups alpha and bravo, and heavy weapons squads Echo 1 and 2.

Inmediately after, their main force should be split into two by motorized squad Romeo 1, charging through the gap between firegroups. Sierra 1 and 2 should redeploy to cut off the enemy's line of retreat.


The remaining 2 pockets of the enemy should be trapped between the firegroups, heavy weapons fire, and sniper fire, which should then proceed to effect a mop up.

What's your plan?
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by doubloon » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:37 am

LavaRed wrote:...
What's your plan?
Maintain as much distance as possible.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by kalikraven » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:56 pm

100 people with modern weapons? Easy 10-33 M2 or M3 Bradleys with a mix of dismounted Infantry or Cavalry Scouts. They would decimate the medieval soldiers with the 25mm HE rounds, 7.62mm M240 and Tow Missiles, Plus be protected by the Bradley's armor. The dismounts would handle any stragglers.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by doubloon » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:22 pm

the tanks would certainly address any concerns I had about distance but I was really thinking more along the lines of a few Apaches, Blackhawks, take your pick.

Probably wouldn't need 100 guys unless you wanted to put some of them in charge of the victory party.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Ramius » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Called in AC-130 :twisted:

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Bone16 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:45 pm

F--k it. 1 guy with one of these strapped to an F-16 s all you need:

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Bendersquint » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:06 pm

Mini-Guns on elevated positions.

With unlimited ammo you can wipe that size force out quickly with 10-15 of them just spraying and praying.

Or use something like a MK19 to funnel the bad guys into your field of fire for the Mini-guns. People in battle can be treated like cattle.....simply direct them where you want them to go and they meet their maker pretty quick.

That works if you have a 100,000 medieval army oarde coming at you, if its sporadic spread over time then GPMG's and precision fire would suffice.

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Libertarian_Geek » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:22 pm

Get 1 man to dress like a wizard and put a minefield between him and the 100,000.

Just in case,
Give your "wizard" a megaphone, a very powerful bright light.


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Barbed wire and M2s.

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by ROFuher » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:20 am

Too short sighted. Killing too many reduces the tax base of your new kingdom.
Drop enough sniper pills into the nobility's pavilions to bring them to the bargaining table, but have medium machine guns ready to stop the inevitable attempt at a double cross with heavy cavalry.

Bring on the wenches and commence quaffing.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Libertarian_Geek » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:11 am

I forgot to cite my inspiration (if it wasn't obvious).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJZK6rzjns

@ROF, mine only kills the ones that aren't influenced by my "wizard".
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by ROFuher » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:25 pm

That'll do.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by YugoRPK » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:13 pm

10 guys with AK's or two Lewis guns could do it. You are way over thinking this.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Dweezil » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:34 pm

Absolutely no reason to kill them all. What are you going to do with 100,000 rotting bodies spreading disease? Who's going to grow the crops, shear the sheep or butcher the pigs when the skirmish is over?
Just kill a few leaders in a spectacular way that can be attributed to something the medieval mind can comprehend, like magic...or god, and the remaining troops will be more than happy to serve you.
Imagine long distance shots of key leaders with a 338 Lapua, a few scattered HE or incendiary mortar rounds...with a colorful wizard to take credit for the magic. Definitely target THEIR wizards/monks first. Try to limit the carnage. The best won battle involves the least bloodshed on both sides.

Most of the rank and file are just conscripted farmers who don't really want to fight. You just have to make them more scared of you than their leaders...and then make it possible for them to retreat with their honor intact.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by renegade » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:13 pm

Let Alec Baldwin invite them into the fort and then drop a MOAB.

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by bitfi3nd » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:33 pm

Large field between me & them, a few lmgs, lots of ammo. Rifle for everybody, lots of ammo, and a massive agricultural sprinkler system full of kerosene.

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by tsands974 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:31 pm

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Libertarian_Geek » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:00 pm

YugoRPK wrote:10 guys with AK's or two Lewis guns could do it. You are way over thinking this.
...or one smallpox blanket.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by YugoRPK » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:26 pm

Libertarian_Geek wrote:
YugoRPK wrote:10 guys with AK's or two Lewis guns could do it. You are way over thinking this.
...or one smallpox blanket.

I think the medieval soldiers probably had enough smallpox of their own and probably had a few more diseases to share.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by poikilotrm » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:38 pm

40 Mk48s, 60 AR10s, 3 sections of 81mm mortars, and a hasty fortress surrounded by rings of M18A1 Claymores and M16A1s.

3 sets of razor wired trenches to get to your brestworks, with two well cleared and firmly packed roads to invite the enemy in.

Channelize them and mow them down while the mortars target the rearmost troops and supply trains. When they retreat in bad order, pursue and destroy. About the time 10% of their force has been annhilated, the remainder will most likely beat a retreat.

Reminds me of that time I went back a couple of thousand years in time. I was on Nantucket, and there was this bright flash...
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by silencertalk » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:59 am

Sarin gas?

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Post by smcharchan » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:28 pm

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by pneumagger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:22 am

Assuming we're talking modern infantry/ground based methods with ample ammunition:

Defensive Arrangement:
I'd assemble a 100 man COP with 20' high stacked hesco barriers.
10 people with M134 Miniguns in nests on the wall; 1000m effective range
10 people with suppressed 338LM rifles (day & night optics); 1500m effective range
10 man crew with tethered aerostat; 40+km EO/IR surveilance range
60 man crew operating 10x M777 155mm Howitzers; 30km effective range
10 man crew operating the Chipotle; unlimited appetite satisfaction capability

Ever seen a Howitzer battery fire for effect? Devastating. Coupled with a 24/7 aerial surveillance platform that can observe over 5000 sqkm of area day or night for weeks on end... invincible stand off range. And if they magically get near the perimeter, miniguns and sniper fire will mow down anything that moves.

Offensive arrangement:
Round up 20 of the artillery gunners, mount them in ten CROWS equipped Armored Humvees, drive out the front gate and them mow down people with automated 50cal & grenade fire.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Libertarian_Geek » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:19 am

Send them to public schools.
Get them addicted to NFL football, reality shows & short-attention-span news in air conditioned homes.
Let them purchase cheap Chinese devices that pretend to make things simpler while complicating their households.
Give them mediocre jobs that support the system above, and let them start families who are also addicted to the above.
Don't forget to encourage them to enrole the little ones in team-sports so that they are fully indoctrinated into the my-team vs your-team while forgetting how to think critically and to work out problems rationally via verbal exchanges of ideas.
Start selling them ways to exchange one-liner/bumper-sticker political jabs.

Do all of this and they will forget that they have something worth fighting for. It'll take the fight right out of them.
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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by rogerme » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:00 am

I would give each person a MK38 and place them in a circle around our outpost.

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Re: You and 99 people VS 100,000 medieval soldiers

Post by Capt. Link. » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:51 pm

I'll need one of these please A Exoatomospheric Kill Vehicle
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