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Apparently I'm a racist. I'm sure most or all of us are to some extent but it was affirmed for me yesterday. I am a Cub Scout Master which just means I am the figurehead to a bunch of "den mothers" Basically like having 6 wives. In any case I live in a town in central Oregon that as far as I can tell has 9 black people in it. One of those kids signed up in our cub scout pack and went to 7 or 8 meetings then stopped going. My son is off to scout camp this week along with 5 others. I saw the kids mother in the grocery store last night and walked up and asked her if her son would be going to any more meetings and that he was missing out on camp this week. She came back with she felt the cub scouts was a racist organization because her son was the only black child there. I did mention that there are 9 black people in this town and I really don't care what her sons skin color is. Then she told me that I'm a racist because I didnt care that her son was black. Seriously.
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Quite often it's not enough to not discriminate.

You have to give special treatment to prove you're not discriminating.

I bet you haven't made any arrangements to celebrate the upcoming anniversary of the first black scout troop.

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Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skins. If you believe in that, then you are automatically anti affirmative action. Therefore, MLK was a racist who hated black people.

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poikilotrm wrote:Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skins. If you believe in that, then you are automatically anti affirmative action. Therefore, MLK was a racist who hated black people.

You can't win with morons, the poorly educated, and the demented. Don 't try.
Martin Luther King Jr also called black people "Negros". Nuff said ?
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No, that was just what they wanted to be called. Remember what the C stands for in NAACP or think about the name of the United Negro College Fund. That "African-American" crap is a whole cloth invention of Jesse Jackson's.

My point was that people who want to see racism everywhere will. People who profit from it in some manner will manufacture it. If you aren't a racist, you believe that all people should be allowed to demonstrate their capabilities. People who are heavily emotionally invested in believing that they are victims will interpret the idea that they should be allowed to succeed or fail on their own merits as racist, while whites, jews, latinos, and Asians, will see that as an opportunity to excel on a level, or even not so level, playing field.
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Don't feel bad. I'm a flaming Lesbian. :lol:

Never forget that NAACP throws Oreo cookies at black Conservatives and call Supreme Court Justices "Clowns in Blackface."

Too bad that a "Clockwork Orange" type film documenting Liberal Racism and other -Isms isn't required coursework for all Freshmen in Highschool and College. Then they could learn the facts and not just Emote.
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poikilotrm wrote:... That "African-American" crap ...
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Maybe you should check with the White House to see if they can bus in more children of other races to join your Scouts...seems like they are wanting to do it for upper-class neighborhoods, so only seems like it should be logical...careful tho, it's a slippery slope...next camping trip they may require that you grill broccoli and travel to the campsite in Chevy Volts...
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I long as I dont have to grill that Kale stuff. Don't know how whitey be eatin that s--t.


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I just had this discussion, the other day, with my wife about the Hulk Hogan crap.

I do not view "the N word" as a racist remark. Derogatory, yes, but not racist. Here's why.

If I was of a culture/race which was viewed in a disdainful way, I would not use those very terms to insult my own people. Much like how I do not hear Jewish people calling each other Kike. Even though, the original use of the word was in no way related to contemptuous or racial statements.

As for "African-American", come on. Other than Native Americans (and Mexicans in the south), there are no other people who's lineage is domestic to this country. To necessitate calling black people African-American would warrant calling all people by their ancestral descent. Though, it's ok to call all European-Americans white?
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T-Rex wrote:Other than Native Americans (and Mexicans in the south), there are no other people who's lineage is domestic to this country.
Actually their lineage isn't domestic either. They were imigrants once to, just 20,000 years sooner.
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Gyrkin wrote:
T-Rex wrote:Other than Native Americans (and Mexicans in the south), there are no other people who's lineage is domestic to this country.
Actually their lineage isn't domestic either. They were imigrants once to, just 20,000 years sooner.
We're all from Africa depending on what paleontologist/anthropologist/bonecollector you listen to.
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What black people won't admit to is that the africans had their own slaves and sold slaves to the white man.

Also whats up with black people discriminating against light skinned blacks? the first time i heard that i never considered any white person to be a racist. If your going to discriminate against your own race like that then you have more problems than white people.
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Just my 2 cents...

I think that we all do it from time to time in our lives, doesn't necessarily make you a bad person. For instance, a person of African decent that wants to see their people succeed and promote that in a positive light can be seen as racist, even if it's not negatively speaking of someone else. All people should be proud of who/what they are, we're all from Africa one way or another so we as humans have that to deal with/get over, whatever.

Africans did sell their own into bondage, and it existed long before any white guy from Europe sailed back over to get free labor for America
All so called races discriminate even against their own, color doesn't matter, humans can be cruel as children.

As for the Hulk Hogan debacle, he said some stuff that many are guilty of, the guy is human who really cares? I was always more of an Ultimate Warrior or Macho Man fan myself anyway. Furthermore, the guy said he's racist to a point, no crime there, he said how he feels. At least you know where you sit with a person like that. The person that used his words against him was obviously told in confidence, but then exposed him like the sex tape a while back. No, I don't condone what he said, but come on really? It's a wrestler... from WWF... really. I'd be slightly upset if it was Rick Flair, but I'd get over it :lol:
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ericlw wrote:What black people won't admit to is that the africans had their own slaves and sold slaves to the white man.

Also whats up with black people discriminating against light skinned blacks? the first time i heard that i never considered any white person to be a racist. If your going to discriminate against your own race like that then you have more problems than white people.
Roman and Greek slaves had Property Rights, Minimum Wage, Right to Sue their Owner for overwork, humiliation/unjust treatment, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Greece

It wasn't until African Tribes began selling their captured rivals that Europeans even learned what "Slavery" could be. Remember, Euros were selling 20+ yrs of our lives for sea passage to get to North Amer for hope of better opportunity.

Yes, Blacks were treated horribly. Let's round up all the Slave Traders and Owners and kill them all. Already happened? OK.

But what about Modern Slavery. Sex Trafficking, Welfare Dependency, Debt Slavery, etc? Remember, Dems like HotRod Clinton and Jeb Bush promote modern Slavery. Why don't Republicans call them out for it? They're modern Plantation Owners and Whip Crackers. We're the Slaves on Plantation/Arbeitslager USA.
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whiterussian1974 wrote:
ericlw wrote:
It wasn't until African Tribes began selling their captured rivals that Europeans even learned what "Slavery" could be.
Thats a bunch of crap too. The Vikings made quite a business out of raiding Slav villages to sell their captives as forced labor in Britain. In the 10th Century 10% of the population of the island of Britain were Slavs hence the word Slave in English. That practice also gave rise to the Novgorod Protectorate as a defense against Viking slave traders. That Protectorate of the Rus evolved and was enlarged into Russia.
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^^ That's where the word "slave" itself came from. While overseas in other countries human trafficking is seen more open and it's a HUGE international problem and ran like a mob business.
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Being called a racist is actually pretty tame compared to the other things I been called. :wink:
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YugoRPK wrote:... Slavs hence the word Slave in English. ...
D9M9TR9S wrote:^^ That's where the word "slave" itself came from. ...
I prefer the word abdu, it predates all your words.
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doubloon wrote:
YugoRPK wrote:... Slavs hence the word Slave in English. ...
D9M9TR9S wrote:^^ That's where the word "slave" itself came from. ...
I prefer the word abdu, it predates all your words.
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Yugo: I'm not sure of the Timeline of Viking Raiders. Did they operate prior to Carthage Slave markets 3500-2500BC?
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No but they arent recent memory either and werent terribly significant to "our" modern northern European based culture. Most of the map of modern Northern Europe was based on the Viking trade routes. Most of that trade was slave trade based. When the Vikings came to plunder your village they werent looking for porridge pots.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
1 Origins
2 Europe 2.1 Classic era 2.1.1 Ancient Greece
2.1.2 Rome
2.1.3 Celtic tribes
2.2 Middle Ages 2.2.1 Great Britain and Ireland
2.2.2 Islamic powers
2.2.3 Mongols
2.2.4 The Vikings and Scandinavia
2.3 Modern era 2.3.1 Portugal
2.3.2 Spain
2.3.3 Netherlands
2.3.4 Barbary Corsairs
2.3.5 British slave trade
2.4 Modern Europe
3 Africa 3.1 Sub-Saharan Africa 3.1.1 Christian slaves
3.1.2 African participation in the slave trade
3.2 Modern times

Origins:
Main article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_antiquity
C. 1480 BC, fugitive slave treaty between Idrimi of Alakakh (now Tell Atchana) and Pillia of Kizzuwatna (now Cilicia).
Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolution about 11,000 years ago.[citation needed]

Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13] Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.[14]
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The Sumerian Code of Ur-Nammu includes laws relating to slaves, written circa 2100 – 2050 BCE; it is the oldest known tablet containing a law code surviving today. The Babylonian Code of Hammurabi, dating to c. 1700 BCE, also makes distinctions between the freeborn, freed and slave.

C. 1480 BC, fugitive slave treaty between Idrimi of Alakakh (now Tell Atchana) and Pillia of Kizzuwatna (now Cilicia). Ref:131447 .
Hittite texts from Anatolia include laws regulating the institution of slavery. Of particular interest is a law stipulating that reward for the capture of an escaped slave would be higher if the slave had already succeeded in crossing the Halys River and getting farther away from the center of Hittite civilization — from which it can be concluded that at least some of the slaves kept by the Hittites possessed a realistic chance of escaping and regaining their freedom, possibly by finding refuge with other kingdoms or ethnic groups.

The worst thing that could happen to a slave was being assigned to the quarries and mines. Private ownership of slaves, captured in war and given by the king to their captor, certainly occurred at the beginning of the Eighteenth Dynasty (1550–1295 BCE).
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The Islamic World was a main factor in slavery. After the Muslim conquests of North Africa and most of the Iberian peninsula (632–750),
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2.2.4 The Vikings and Scandinavia
Main articles: Thrall and Volga trade route

In the Viking era beginning circa 793, the Norse raiders often captured and enslaved militarily weaker peoples they encountered. The Nordic countries called their slaves thralls (Old Norse: Þræll).[26] The thralls were mostly from Western Europe, among them many Franks, Anglo-Saxons, and Celts. Many Irish slaves travelled in expeditions for the colonization of Iceland.[55] The Norse also took German, Baltic, Slavic and Latin slaves. The slave trade was one of the pillars of Norse commerce during the 6th[citation needed] through 11th centuries. The 10th-century Persian traveller Ibn Rustah described how Swedish Vikings, the Varangians or Rus, terrorized and enslaved the Slavs taken in their raids along the Volga River. The thrall system was finally abolished[by whom?] in the mid-14th century in Scandinavia.[56]

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Vikings were 3000yrs behind Arab and N African Slave Industries.
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