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More schools ban flavored milk.

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I don't know what to make of this. If you kid picks flavored milk over white milk, he would expect to gain about 3.6 extra lbs (the media is reporting 10 lbs, but that is BS as it takes 3500 calories to gain a lb).

30% of kids are obese.

My kids need all the weight they can gain.

Should my kids be prevented from having it because other kids are fat?

Realistically, probably yes - as the school should do what is best for most people, and my kids can eat at home or bring their own food.
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silencertalk wrote:?.., and my kids can eat at home or bring their own food.
For now. At least until the .gov decides that your home made lunches are not healthy and balanced enough.

Banning flavored milk is stupid. The lukewarm white milk I was served tasted of cardboard. The chocolate was the only flavor that was ok. My son certainly wouldn't drink the white stuff, he'd just go without or choose juice or something. So, when kids stop drinking the milk and start breaking bones from lack of calcium, what then?
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I am not a fan of milk. The only reason why I drank it as a kid in school was because I don't think there was any other thing to drink. I drank chocolate, because I am very sensitive to the freshness of milk, and the chocolate masked the taste and sour smell on the outside of the container.

If there were juice, it would be no contest, and I probably never would have had white milk.

As for kids making healthy choices on their own - that is too hard. They are kids because they are not ready to be unsupervised. They do cool things like skip desert of they are full, but we still need to press them to eat a broad range of foods rather than just the one thing they like best. At home I can give them what I want to give them, but if they can pick anything at school, that is like sending them to the supermarket on their own.

I would probably ban it from being served at school, and if I wanted my kids to have it I could send them with flavor packets to dump in.
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I remember in middle school they tried giving us milk in a bag. It often had lumps in it. We would throw them in the palo verde and mesquite trees around the school and have our own little version of fall (AZ, we only have hot and hotter and half of our trees are brown all year anyway) because they would change different colors. There was never any consistency to the color change though, even within the same lot numbers. Hey, at least we tried to be scientific about it.
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This should be Hershey's response to the banning.

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That is the correct solution.
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silencertalk wrote: Should my kids be prevented from having it because other kids are fat?

Realistically, probably yes - as the school should do what is best for most people, and my kids can eat at home or bring their own food.
Um, hell no. That is socialist, which is part of my problem with public school. If little Johnny happens to be dumb and Suzy is brilliant, well Suzy gets to learn at the pace of Johnny??? Let's face it, not everyone can be a rocket surgeon. I say give them chocolate milk and juice and whatever else. I don't think that limiting the food intake at school is going to make some kids skinny. Some people are born to be lazy and fat. It is genetics, I guess. It is not the school's job, nor Michelle Obama's job to make kids healthy. It is their parents job. The school can educate, but ultimately the parent and child have the final say.

I like what they did in boot camp in the Marine Corps. If a recruit was fat, he was given smaller portions, no dessert, and drank water. If a recruit was skinny, like Robert's kiddos, they were given double rations so that they could catch up. The normal sized people just got regular portions. This is where I fit in and it was never enough.
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amatac wrote:
silencertalk wrote: Should my kids be prevented from having it because other kids are fat?

Realistically, probably yes - as the school should do what is best for most people, and my kids can eat at home or bring their own food.
... I say give them chocolate milk and juice and whatever else. ...
Whatever their parents will let them have sure.

If there was some economic reason for having only one kind of milk I'd be OK with removing one milk or the other from the menu but not because some socialist organism wants to decide what's good for my kid.
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No more chocolate milk? These nanny statists can suck my balls.

Sorry to not come across with a more thoughtfull, less crude way of expressing myself but reason is lost on these assholes. They just need sack breath.
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I personally cannot understand why we would want to drink milk when every mammal on the planet weens it's young off of it. To make matters worse we tend to drink the milk of other mammals.
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Baboon wrote:I personally cannot understand why we would want to drink milk when every mammal on the planet weens it's young off of it. To make matters worse we tend to drink the milk of other mammals.
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Flavored milk is good nutrition.
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amatac wrote:Um, hell no. That is socialist, which is part of my problem with public school. If little Johnny happens to be dumb and Suzy is brilliant, well Suzy gets to learn at the pace of Johnny??? Let's face it, not everyone can be a rocket surgeon.
They are kids! It would be socialist if it was banned for adults. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making nutritional choices for kids.
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silencertalk wrote:They are kids! It would be socialist if it was banned for adults. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making nutritional choices for kids.
Another way of looking at it is that they aren't banning flavored milk, they are banning the school from serving it. If you want it, the way I understand it, you're still free to bring it yourself.

I fully support this decision. The food that's being served in most schools nowdays is pure crap, and that's putting it politely. Despite the fact that my kids could really use those calories, they don't need them from sugar. And the kids that are obese really don't need all the extra calories from sugar.

If you want your kid to be a fattie, then that's your decision, not the school's.
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I am just talking about what the school orders and inventories.

I am strongly against bans from kids bringing in certain foods, including peanuts. Parents should be able to send their kids to school with any food.
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Yes, exactly. And my daughter has a severe peanut allergy. She knew when she was in kindergarten that she was absolutely not allowed to share food with anyone. Now that she's in 9th grade, she can share food, but only if she's 100% certain of the ingredients. She also has an epipen with her at all times.

If your child's allergies are such that they cannot even be in the same room as someone eating peanuts, then perhaps they shouldn't be in a public school...
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silencertalk wrote:I am just talking about what the school orders and inventories.

I am strongly against bans from kids bringing in certain foods, including peanuts. Parents should be able to send their kids to school with any food.
For my daughters pre-school we have to send them in with a snack. If the teacher deems it not healthy enough they will not let the kid have it and make you pay for the one they give them.

She explained anything with even a chocolate drizzle on it is a no-go cause its chocolate. No sugar snacks causes it makes them hyper (I still dont know why people believe this).

Then went on to say not to come to her if you child was allowed one thing in a different classroom, cause every teacher allows different things.

Only %100 fruit juice or water. They have whole or skim milk in house to be purchased if you want.

I was pretty upset about it. They said cause they have some sort of federal certification.
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jppd47 wrote:For my daughters pre-school we have to send them in with a snack. If the teacher deems it not healthy enough they will not let the kid have it and make you pay for the one they give them.
That is outrageous! I would send my kid in with Twinkies and tell them that I don't mind them offering suggestions and bringing up the issue, and I will hear what they have to say, but in the end, I get to decide.

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silencertalk wrote:I would send my kid in with Twinkies...
True civil disobedience would be caffeinated chocoloate covered Twinkies. :D
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Blaubart wrote:
silencertalk wrote:I would send my kid in with Twinkies...
True civil disobedience would be caffeinated chocoloate covered Twinkies. :D
The difference is that the teacher would think the Twinkles are bad, but they are won't harm my thin kid.

I am anti-drug though, and consider caffeine a drug. When I see people in line at Dunkin' Donuts for coffee, and the line is like 20 people long, I think they are pathetic. Like mice tapping a button for a dose.
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I said the same thing to my daughters mother about the twinkie
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[quote="silencertalkI am anti-drug though, and consider caffeine a drug. When I see people in line at Dunkin' Donuts for coffee, and the line is like 20 people long, I think they are pathetic. Like mice tapping a button for a dose.[/quote]

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silencertalk wrote: I am anti-drug though, and consider caffeine a drug. When I see people in line at Dunkin' Donuts for coffee, and the line is like 20 people long, I think they are pathetic. Like mice tapping a button for a dose.
I would rather not be pathetic and just have a mainline drip, but I enjoy the taste :D I would consider coffee a drug. Food is also a drug and a gander around the workplace shows that the US populous has an addiction.

I fought with my daughter's private school for the past several years on what we would pack in her lunch. If I would send some vanilla wafers, they would come back home. If there was a 100% juice box, it would come back. They could have meat, veggies, and bread. Milk was ok no matter the flavor. I thought it was pure and total BS and told them such. They expected us to buy them pizza on Fridays and Chick-Fil-A on Wednesdays. Now she is in public school. Public school food sucks, but the feds contribute to that. The school has to provide a meal under a certain price and it has to contain XY&Z. That is why they serve a hot steaming pile of... Just like Ron Paul stated at last nights debate, school lunches are all too often a social welfare program. I am all about KIDS being fed, but I think that in order to be a parent one should have enough competence to be able to maintain a job. If you cannot afford to feed your kids, well then, you should not be allowed to have kids.
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Why would they send home cookies but allow pizza and fried chicken? None of them are great for you.

Which reminds me - I am going to work on having less cheese (which I love) and have more cottage cheese for less fat with protein. But only if it is warm and in pasta.
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