"Moonshiners" on Discovery Channel

[504ranger]

Anyone else watch this show on The Discovery Channel? Decent show but if it's illegal to make moonshine then how is Tim not incriminating himself for not only making moonshine but tax evasion? Just curious.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/moonshiners

[USMC03]

It's all fake. They dont make much, if any alcohol on the show.

[504ranger]

Roger. I figured as much.

[TROOPER]

I believe people are allowed to make some within a limited quantity, and without selling it.

The thing that pisses me off about that is, how is it acceptable to make some, but make beyond some arbitrary amount, and its illegal? Its either immoral/unethical or it isn't.

Whatever.

The show isn't portraying anything illegal because of the amount they are making.

[SC-Texas]

Acutally, believe that it is illegal to have a still and to make any amount of alcohol.

I agree, they are reinacting their earlier exploits.

[Glock35]

the guys my DNR friends have ran into are not welcoming to say the least
certainly the opposite of any show like this

[Hitman]

In my state 5 bucks get you a permit to make 300 gallons for personnel consumption and 3000 for vehicle use.

[jlwilliams]

I tried watching but the show was too ghey to watch.

[PTK]

I believe people are allowed to make some within a limited quantity, and without selling it.

Acutally, believe that it is illegal to have a still and to make any amount of alcohol.

In my state 5 bucks get you a permit to make 300 gallons for personnel consumption and 3000 for vehicle use.

....seriously. All of you know NFA laws and other gun laws, but you make guesses about what the law is on distilling alcohol at home? Sort of like how people believe silencers are illegal, or how they believe you can just go ahead and make silencers since they're legal as long as you don't sell them, or how they believe you just need some state permit and you can have a silencer.


Anyway, here you go, straight from the government (source: http://www.ttb.gov/faqs/genalcohol.shtml)

You cannot produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant. [See 26 U.S.C. 5601 & 5602 for some of the criminal penalties.]

Not "unless you get a permit from your state", not "under this amount is okay", distilling spirits (plain ethanol, that hasn't been tainted for fuel, and is intended to be consumed) is 100% illegal in any way, shape, or form unless you are a Federally recognized distillery.

[SC-Texas]

Like I said . . . Illegal to have a still and make any amount of Algohol.

Now home brewing beer and wine is alright under certain amounts.

But hard liquor is a no go.

[PTK]

And now you know for sure and have a legitimate source as to why it's illegal in the USA.

[TROOPER]

I misunderstood that they were making "hard" alcohol. I know that people make wine at home all the time.

My original question stands; how is it morally/ethically acceptable to make wine at home, but it somehow falls under government jurisdiction the instant the proof exceeds some completely arbitrary amount. It is either wrong, or it isn't.

I feel the same way about rape. I rape women once a month, but I know that if I move up to 15 per year, that this will be looked at by the government unfavorably as immoral.

I use three ounces of marajuana every weekend because it makes me feel good. The government doesn't mind. But if I move up to a full kilogram of possession, then that means I have "intent to distribute", meaning... when I use it alone, that's OK, but if anyone else use's it alone, that's naughty.

<insert bullshit here> to some <insert arbitrary number> extent. And that is OK. But when I <repeat bullshit here> a the rate of <insert previous arbitrary number * 1.4> it is not OK. Because sin is acceptable is slightly smaller doses.

I wonder if we could extend that to law-makers in general. Could I get away with issuing prescription-strength 'dirt-nap' pellets to the people who think this way if I only did a few? What number becomes unacceptable?

[Russian]

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[stengun]

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

[Russian]

xx

[stengun]

Howdy,

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

Hi. You might want to read the "Where's Lawless" thread before you go too far down that road.

And your point is?

Paul

[Russian]

xx

[PTK]

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Don't be a jerk, Russian is already well aware that he's a felon. He cannot legally own guns or ammunition (laws I don't agree with, for what it's worth) but he's more than welcome to have an interest and participate in discussions, no?

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

Pretty much, Paul. Pretty much.

[dustdevil]

stengun, the answer is no. Russian has been here a long time. He fucked up went to prison end of story. Should we ostracize him from a internet forum? You probably think that the ATF is looking at everyone on this board and who they associate with. You are a big giant pussy who needs to STFU.

[JohnnyC]

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

Coming from someone who posts a thread whoring for votes for his ratty fag dog, yes, you seem to be the only one with a problem. STFU and mind your own business.

[JohnnyC]

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

Coming from someone who posts a thread whoring for votes for his ratty fag dog....... yes, you seem to be the only one with a problem. STFU and mind your own business.

[weaponsloader]

Howdy,

When I was in prison

Gee, this is a gun forum and one that deals with NFA items.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this post?

Paul

Howdy,
Get the F--k over it. The man did his time, admitted his mistake and contributes a worthwhile opinion. The most you contribute is spam posts about your little s--t of a dog.
Neil

[SC-Texas]

this is a dog forum also? Awesome! One stop shopping . . . lol

[Libertarian_Geek]

...
Coming from someone who posts a thread whoring for votes for his ratty fag dog....... yes, you seem to be the only one with a problem. STFU and mind your own business.

[Bamaboy]

Popcorn Sutton R.I.P.He was a funny and entertaining old guy.