Cleaning
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- Delasangre4231
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Cleaning
So I finally got the baby home, 1 year and 5 days from date of purchase.
Anyways, I shot maybe 800-1000 rounds downrange while it was in jail because my dealer is amazing. Now that I got it home I went to take it apart and gosh was it filthy.
Q1 is an ultrasonic the easiest way to clean the caked on carbon? I brass brush and solvent barely touched it.
Q2 how do I get the blast baffle out and how hard can I hit it to try and get it out? I don't want to break anything but don't know how gentle to be.
Anyways, I shot maybe 800-1000 rounds downrange while it was in jail because my dealer is amazing. Now that I got it home I went to take it apart and gosh was it filthy.
Q1 is an ultrasonic the easiest way to clean the caked on carbon? I brass brush and solvent barely touched it.
Q2 how do I get the blast baffle out and how hard can I hit it to try and get it out? I don't want to break anything but don't know how gentle to be.
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Re: Cleaning
Nevermind I got the Blast Baffle out. This thing was stuck together pretty well after 1000 rounds worth of crud sitting for a year
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Re: Cleaning
Probably more like 3000 if you get my drift.Delasangre4231 wrote:This thing was stuck together pretty well after 1000 rounds worth of crud sitting for a year
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Re: Cleaning
The easiest way to clean any SS suppressor parts is in a wet tumbler with SS pins. My Octane9 HD baffles, Silencerco/SWR pistons, and Sparrow half tubes come out looking brand new. When done simply dry them off and add a light coat of oil.
I also have an ultrasonic cleaner but in no way does it clean as well as the wet tumbler.
I also have an ultrasonic cleaner but in no way does it clean as well as the wet tumbler.
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Well they emailed me and recommended a soak in vinegar and hydrogen peroxide.
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Re: Cleaning
The tumbler and stainless pins with about 1/2 a cup of water and a bit of dish soap will do a really good job also.
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See my problem is that I dont have any of these machines yet, like the ultra sonic or tumbler so I need to do it by hand until I can afford them.
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Re: Cleaning
The famous "dip." Just a friendly reminder that this will turn into lead acetate...very toxic. Always use nitrile gloves and dispose of the mixture at your local hazmat facility. Don't pour it down the sink.Delasangre4231 wrote:Well they emailed me and recommended a soak in vinegar and hydrogen peroxide.
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This is why I like using a wet tumbler and SS pins. No toxic chemicals and cleans just as well as the dip.rimshaker wrote:The famous "dip." Just a friendly reminder that this will turn into lead acetate...very toxic. Always use nitrile gloves and dispose of the mixture at your local hazmat facility. Don't pour it down the sink.Delasangre4231 wrote:Well they emailed me and recommended a soak in vinegar and hydrogen peroxide.
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Re: Cleaning
The dip has worked for me, I haven't let my Spectre get too dirty; about 30 minutes is all it takes. I clean it after every couple hundred rounds...
An RCBS ultrasonic will be on the Brown Truck, on Monday. Silencerco's own video recommends 50% Purple Power and 50% H2O buzzing away at 175 degrees for 1 hour.
Before I saw that video, I picked up a jug of Ultrasonic Hornady gun cleaning solution, so we'll see how that goes, too.
I couldn't find a "New members introduction' area, so I guess this is it. I've been watching the forum for the last 10 1/2 months, waiting for the tax stamp.
An RCBS ultrasonic will be on the Brown Truck, on Monday. Silencerco's own video recommends 50% Purple Power and 50% H2O buzzing away at 175 degrees for 1 hour.
Before I saw that video, I picked up a jug of Ultrasonic Hornady gun cleaning solution, so we'll see how that goes, too.
I couldn't find a "New members introduction' area, so I guess this is it. I've been watching the forum for the last 10 1/2 months, waiting for the tax stamp.
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Re: Cleaning
Follow-up on the Ultrasonic:
Using Hornady's ultrasonic gun cleaning solution it did a great job on a Ruger 22/45, Colt 1991A1, and got those cleaner than I've ever had them, though I learned that I should have scrubbed the bores a bit beforehand.
The Hornady Gun Cleaner did not do a very good job on the Spectre-II baffles, however.
40 minutes at 140 degrees and could barely tell a difference from when we started. The tube and end cap threads came out fine, but baffles were a disappointing story.
SO upshot on the Ultrasonic, it did a great job in cleaning general hard-to-reach gun parts, really stripping out the tight corners of their gunk that even a pick and Q-tips couldn't reach. The Hornady ultrasonic solution contains pine oil, the smell of which I dislike quite a bit (reminds me of a barf clean-up in grade school) BUT it did a good job for it's stated purpose.
Next time I get the Spectre dirty, which shouldn't be too long, I'll try the Silencerco-recommended Purple Power at 50% dilution. Will keep you posted, as they say.
Using Hornady's ultrasonic gun cleaning solution it did a great job on a Ruger 22/45, Colt 1991A1, and got those cleaner than I've ever had them, though I learned that I should have scrubbed the bores a bit beforehand.
The Hornady Gun Cleaner did not do a very good job on the Spectre-II baffles, however.
40 minutes at 140 degrees and could barely tell a difference from when we started. The tube and end cap threads came out fine, but baffles were a disappointing story.
SO upshot on the Ultrasonic, it did a great job in cleaning general hard-to-reach gun parts, really stripping out the tight corners of their gunk that even a pick and Q-tips couldn't reach. The Hornady ultrasonic solution contains pine oil, the smell of which I dislike quite a bit (reminds me of a barf clean-up in grade school) BUT it did a good job for it's stated purpose.
Next time I get the Spectre dirty, which shouldn't be too long, I'll try the Silencerco-recommended Purple Power at 50% dilution. Will keep you posted, as they say.
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Re: Cleaning
Purple power didn't work on my Spectre II baffles. It will take off some of the carbon fouling, but lead deposits won't budge.
I had to resort to just using good old vinegar.
I had to resort to just using good old vinegar.
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Are you using the vinegar as a soak, or in an ultrasonic machine?
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Re: Cleaning
Can I put Melonite or Failzero parts in the vinegar/H2O2 dip?
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YES!.. My Melonited Sparrow22-SS has had three Vinegar/Hydrogen Peroxide dip baths (for you Chem folks..CH3COOH/H202)... No ill effects yet... and still looking as great as the day i got it back from SRI.Delasangre4231 wrote:Can I put Melonite or Failzero parts in the vinegar/H2O2 dip?
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Sweet I was hoping to put my Falizero AR15 bolt in the get the caked on carbon off near the gas rings.
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Sorry for such a long delay to reply, don't check forums often.StoneyGherkin wrote:Are you using the vinegar as a soak, or in an ultrasonic machine?
Anyways, I use vinegar in the ultra sonic. Wear gloves and dispose of the solution as hazmat.
When you use the dip, the vinegar will break the lead down, the h2o2 is just the agitator.
Vinegar + ultrasonic = the dip on steroids
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Thank you for getting back about the "secret formula". I have wondered for awhile why nobody had tried the "dip" in an Ultrasonic. The ingredients are pretty inexpensive, and it makes sense that it'd work great, but frankly didn't want to be the one that discovered that it was TOO GOOD and wrecks the machine or something.
Though the Hornady Gun Cleaner does a good job on regular gun parts, as it's intended, it did next-to-nothing on the Spectre-II baffles.
I am looking forward to trying this.
Though the Hornady Gun Cleaner does a good job on regular gun parts, as it's intended, it did next-to-nothing on the Spectre-II baffles.
I am looking forward to trying this.
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Vinegar solution in an ultrasonic. Hmm it might just speed up the cleaning process if anything? Instead of waiting 1-2 days looking at a cloudy glass jar.
*sigh*... i just wish Al baffles could be cleaned with either ultrasonics or the dip.
*sigh*... i just wish Al baffles could be cleaned with either ultrasonics or the dip.
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Sounds like a toxic nightmare every time you use it.
Hope people aren't reading this and start Putting vinegar in a sonic.
Hope people aren't reading this and start Putting vinegar in a sonic.
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Re: Cleaning
Regardless of the method, whenever anyone cleans a .22 suppressor, lead is coming out of it, no matter the method. Brush, cloth, dip or ultrasonic cleaner.
Lead is defined as a toxic substance, and just because it might be suspended in Hornady solution does not make it any less toxic than if it's in another liquid.
Lead is defined as a toxic substance, and just because it might be suspended in Hornady solution does not make it any less toxic than if it's in another liquid.
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Re: Cleaning
I use 50/50 purple power to water in my ultrasonic cleaner with the Sparrow. Works like a charm. My ultrasonic is heated btw.
Re: Cleaning
StoneyGherkin wrote:Regardless of the method, whenever anyone cleans a .22 suppressor, lead is coming out of it, no matter the method. Brush, cloth, dip or ultrasonic cleaner.
Lead is defined as a toxic substance, and just because it might be suspended in Hornady solution does not make it any less toxic than if it's in another liquid.
When you add vinegar to lead you create lead acetate which is highly toxic and different than lead and soap/cleaner.
If you are going to use vinegar in a sonic cleaner KEEP IT IN A JAR or you have a toxic mess.
Other methods are much safer.
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Delasangre4231 wrote:Sweet I was hoping to put my Falizero AR15 bolt in the get the caked on carbon off near the gas rings.
No need to soak it in "the dip" for carbon fouling.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I've tried 50/50 purple power/water in my RCBS ultrasonic cleaner at 140 degrees for 1.5hrs to remove lead from the core of a Liberty Mystic after firing lead 9mm reloads and my experience echos that of others...it didn't do s--t to remove the lead but did a great job of removing carbon. What a few other guys recommended, and what i may try at some point, is placing the baffles and the DIP in a spaghetti jar that I'll then place in the ultrasonic cleaner which is filled with water to match the level of the DIP in the jar. I havent done that yet, but I'm thinking it will give the benefits of both cleaning methods while making cleanup easier (i.e. DIP is confined to jar and doesnt touch the ultrasonic cleaner).
I bought some CMJ 147gr bullets with a covered base specifically for suppressed shooting, but they were double what lead bullets cost me, so i'm still trying to figure out a way to shoot lead and not have a cleaning nightmare.
I bought some CMJ 147gr bullets with a covered base specifically for suppressed shooting, but they were double what lead bullets cost me, so i'm still trying to figure out a way to shoot lead and not have a cleaning nightmare.