first can just ordered! aka Spectre

workinman01 · Post by **workinman01** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:57 am

just ordered my first can and decided to go with the Spectre. almost went with the yhm mite, but wanted more performance for the expense. will be going on a 16" cz american for now, but will see use on others later. I have the thread attachment to change from 1/2x20 to 1/2x28, but was wondering if i have to check alignment as the rifle was threaded from the factory. any general info, recommendations, or hints you guys have would be appreciated for this newby!

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:19 am

workinman01 wrote:just ordered my first can and decided to go with the Spectre. almost went with the yhm mite, but wanted more performance for the expense. will be going on a 16" cz american for now, but will see use on others later. I have the thread attachment to change from 1/2x20 to 1/2x28, but was wondering if i have to check alignment as the rifle was threaded from the factory. any general info, recommendations, or hints you guys have would be appreciated for this newby!

You should ALWAYS check the alignment.

workinman01 · Post by **workinman01** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:03 am

what is the best way to check alignment?

smcharchan · Post by **smcharchan** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:16 am

workinman01 wrote:what is the best way to check alignment?

Though it is certainly not the best way to check, I have been able to use my naked eye to see 2 misalignment issues caused by bad threading jobs on 2 of my guns.

Mount the suppressor then hold the chamber end of your barrel toward a dim light. Look though the suppressor and down the bore. Try varying the distance from your eye to the endcap of the suppressor.

There are better ways to verify proper threading, but this is a quick way to check for alignment every time you put a can on a gun.

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:35 pm

smcharchan wrote:
workinman01 wrote:what is the best way to check alignment?
Though it is certainly not the best way to check, I have been able to use my naked eye to see 2 misalignment issues caused by bad threading jobs on 2 of my guns.

Mount the suppressor then hold the chamber end of your barrel toward a dim light. Look though the suppressor and down the bore. Try varying the distance from your eye to the endcap of the suppressor.

There are better ways to verify proper threading, but this is a quick way to check for alignment every time you put a can on a gun.

You should look from the chamber down the barrel. You should not see suppressor.

DemonLlama · Post by **DemonLlama** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:17 pm

Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?

MAJ MALFUNCTION · Post by **MAJ MALFUNCTION** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:42 pm

Matt answered below.

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:41 pm

DemonLlama wrote:Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?

No.

22 lr / 22 WMR / 5.7 / .17 HMR

22 Hornet will damage the suppressor.

DemonLlama · Post by **DemonLlama** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:23 pm

Oh well. Good to know, thanks.

NN4S · Post by **NN4S** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:01 pm

mpallett wrote:
DemonLlama wrote:Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?

No.

22 lr / 22 WMR / 5.7 / .17 HMR

22 Hornet will damage the suppressor.

How about .17HM2?

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:22 am

NN4S wrote:
mpallett wrote:
DemonLlama wrote:Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?

No.

22 lr / 22 WMR / 5.7 / .17 HMR

22 Hornet will damage the suppressor.
How about .17HM2?

Yes for the .17 Mach2

NN4S · Post by **NN4S** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:24 pm

I figured as much, but better to be safe than sorry...

CaseyJ · Post by **CaseyJ** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:38 pm

mpallett wrote:
DemonLlama wrote:Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?
No.

22 lr / 22 WMR / 5.7 / .17 HMR

22 Hornet will damage the suppressor.

How will the hornet damage this suppressor if the hornet's max pressure is around 43K and the 5.7 (which this is rated for as well) is around 50K and the bullet diameter is the same? I was planning on using it for a hornet when I got mine and would like clarification.

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:17 am

CaseyJ wrote:
mpallett wrote:
DemonLlama wrote:Quick Spectre question.

Are they safe to use with .22 Hornet?
No.

22 lr / 22 WMR / 5.7 / .17 HMR

22 Hornet will damage the suppressor.
How will the hornet damage this suppressor if the hornet's max pressure is around 43K and the 5.7 (which this is rated for as well) is around 50K and the bullet diameter is the same? I was planning on using it for a hornet when I got mine and would like clarification.

It isn't just pressure. It is pressure AND volume of gas. Trust me when I say that the Hornet will damage the Spectre.

TOOL1075 · Post by **TOOL1075** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:13 pm

mpallett wrote:
It isn't just pressure. It is pressure AND volume of gas. Trust me when I say that the Hornet will damage the Spectre.

tis true.

remember boys and girls -

blast pressure means nothing without an associated duration. without duration, there is no impulse.

you can't rely on pressure numbers alone when analyzing a component's response to a blast load.

for example-

let's say you have a 40,000 psi pressure spike with instantaneous rise-time. (it happens really quickly, and the load doesn't "ramp-up").

let's say it then decays, gradually, over a period of 4 ms (that's 4 milliseconds).

That's an impulse of 80,000 psi-ms.

now, let's say you have a 20,000 psi pressure spike, same load shape, but the duration is 10 ms. You now have an impulse of 100,000 psi-ms.

25% increase in impulse with a pressure that is HALF as high.

See the problem?

And, to complicate things, you STILL don't know which load case is worse, in general. Is your component pressure sensitive? Or, is it impulse sensitive?

*cue dramatic music* BUM BUM BUUUUM!

NFA Newbie · Post by **NFA Newbie** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm

mpallett wrote:
It isn't just pressure. It is pressure AND volume of gas. Trust me when I say that the Hornet will damage the Spectre.

What about a .224 Boz out of 6 inch STI?

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:59 pm

NFA Newbie wrote:
mpallett wrote:
It isn't just pressure. It is pressure AND volume of gas. Trust me when I say that the Hornet will damage the Spectre.
What about a .224 Boz out of 6 inch STI?

Send us the gun with threaded barrel and 500 rounds of ammo and we will let you know

NFA Newbie · Post by **NFA Newbie** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:32 pm

mpallett wrote:
NFA Newbie wrote:
mpallett wrote:
It isn't just pressure. It is pressure AND volume of gas. Trust me when I say that the Hornet will damage the Spectre.
What about a .224 Boz out of 6 inch STI?
Send us the gun with threaded barrel and 500 rounds of ammo and we will let you know

Now that there is just mean... Might could hook you up with a reamer, and tell you where to get dies, but I am kid of partial to the gun. It is already threaded 1/2X28. Come on down and bring a spare Spectre and I will provide ammo for testing...

LonghunterCO · Post by **LonghunterCO** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:25 pm

Dropped the cash on the Spectre on Thursday. My first .22 silencer (second can in collection). I am very excited about this purchase.

saltydecimator · Post by **saltydecimator** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:47 pm

what about 545 by 39

mpallett · Post by **mpallett** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:02 pm

saltydecimator wrote:what about 545 by 39

No.

RFmissile · Post by **RFmissile** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:20 pm

I also ordered one last Wednesday but my dealer hasn't gotten back to me just yet with the serial number!

LonghunterCO · Post by **LonghunterCO** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:17 am

LonghunterCO wrote:Dropped the cash on the Spectre on Thursday. My first .22 silencer (second can in collection). I am very excited about this purchase.

Went pending on Nov 18th!

RFmissile · Post by **RFmissile** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:58 am

LonghunterCO wrote:
LonghunterCO wrote:Dropped the cash on the Spectre on Thursday. My first .22 silencer (second can in collection). I am very excited about this purchase.
Went pending on Nov 18th!

I just sent my Form 4 for my Spectre on DEC 1, maybe you will get yours before Christmas!

LonghunterCO · Post by **LonghunterCO** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:08 am

RFmissile wrote:
LonghunterCO wrote:
LonghunterCO wrote:Dropped the cash on the Spectre on Thursday. My first .22 silencer (second can in collection). I am very excited about this purchase.
Went pending on Nov 18th!
I just sent my Form 4 for my Spectre on DEC 1, maybe you will get yours before Christmas!

I am hoping so! Ho,HO,HO

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