7.62X25 MAC 11a1

[rcn11thacr]

Has anyone tried out the 7.62X25 upper assy for these? Looks like a cheaper way to play. http://www.alliancearmament.com/ampsyst ... ories.aspx I did read it right that thats for the .380 MAC11a1 right?

[ronin111]

I don't have one but I haven't seen cheap Tokarev in a while so I don't see the point.

[rcn11thacr]

Maybe the prices i've seen were old then(it was on a forum)...
What is the current average price for it? I googled it but didnt get any hits

[ronin111]

The cheapest I could find quickly was about 32 cents/rd before shipping.

http://www.jgsales.com/-p-3145.html

[rcn11thacr]

I was looking for the chineese "p" rated ammo which was subsonic. Didnt realize i'd clicked on the very hard to find stuff...

[LoudasFawk]

I was looking for the chineese "p" rated ammo which was subsonic. Didnt realize i'd clicked on the very hard to find stuff...

Not an issue anyway, that AA conversion isn't for sale yet. It's vaporware at this point. FWIW the conversion is slated to work as a conversion with the AMP11 upper......

[Gunfixr]

It'd never work on a .380 gun. They'll have a real difficult time getting it to work in the Cobray M11/9 9mm guns.
The Tokarev round is quite noticeably longer than the 9mm round, so it won't stack correctly in the mags. Also, the bolt is too light, it will open too early, and can blow out cases.

I built two 7.62x25mm Cobray M11/9s from semiauto kits several years ago. Weight had to be added to the bolt, and a new magwell had to be fabricated so that magazines for the CZ 26 submachine gun could be used, as it was chambered in this caliber.

I did build an M11 in .380 from a kit as well, and converted it to 9mm Makarov. While the short Zytel mags worked perfectly, the full capacity mags would not. Attempts with 3 mags using different modifications all failed, and so it was left as a 12rd 9mm Mak pistol. I just put the .380 barrel back in, as there is already a 12rd pistol in that caliber.

[love2shoot]

if the ammo was still cheap. fortunately I stocked up on it when it was. There are some that have done this conversion with a M11/9 that have the Sten Magwell. They take the sten mags and cut the rib out of the back to give enough room. There was a guy even making barrels for it over on Uzi talk....Problem with what he was doing is that he was using .311 barrels thinking it is a russian round like the 7.62x39......But it's origin is traced to Germany and actually uses a .308 barrel. Since I did not have the Sten conversion I went a different route with my Mac conversion into this Caliber. I used the Polish CZ subgun Magazines like what Gunfixr used, but instead of trying to make them work in a M11/9, I pulled out the Ingram M10. Just need some plates on the outside of the mags to act as stops and take up the extra space. I have a Lage upper, so just used the heavier 9mm Lage bolt to bring the speed down a little bit.