ATF NFA - Wait Time Is Now 15-Months (As of 2013-10-25)

Wahnsinn · Post by **Wahnsinn** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:38 am

I called NFA yesterday on a can I paid for back in May (I hadn't called yet, just wanted to make sure everything was kosher). She told me 9 months, so maybe they're backing down the times now for what they quote at least.

Unfortunately, did not get e-filed

so I'm looking at another few months still most likely. Friend of mine is getting the same can, e-filed yesterday supposedly by his dealer...will be interesting to see who wins that race

fullofdays · Post by **fullofdays** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:46 am

90 days on an efile is what I've heard. I am not believing it until I see it myself.

houlador · Post by **houlador** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:36 pm

I have been waiting on 2 items on form 4. A .22 silencer and a SBR. When my paperwork was submitted and check cashed for the pistol can it was a 6 month wait. After this time passed I talked to my dealer he said it was up to 10 months. I just got the approval so next week I will pick it up. This ended up being a 9 month wait. The SBR was supposed to be approved January 2014. I am thinking now February unless there are any more "delays". Best of luck to everyone waiting!

Sthncmft · Post by **Sthncmft** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:44 am

Check mailed 02/08/2013
Check cashed 02/11/20103
Went "pending " 04-22-2013
Still Waiting on my SBR...

Received My SBR stamp today...Was stamped 12-20-2013 on the front...Had a stamp on back dated 10-03-2013

Anyone know why it was stamped on the back in october and approved in december?

Glad I received it, but it was damn near 11 months from initial mailing to receiving stamp...

Unobtanium · Post by **Unobtanium** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:23 am

I just called to verify that some paperwork had made it in, found out it was pending, and was told 9 months.

L1A1Rocker · Post by **L1A1Rocker** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:43 pm

February 11, 2013 I sent 3 Form 1s in under my trust (2 silencers, 1SBR)

July 29 (apx) I received the silencer Forms back for correction (sent back the next day)

May 3, the two silencer forms were approved

May 7, received one of the approved forms

May 10, SBR approved

May 21, received the other approved silencer

Still waiting on the SBR to arrive.

I find it odd that the form that was NOT returned for correction is the last one approved and received.

Juan916Ebay · Post by **Juan916Ebay** » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:38 pm

I have a SBR form 1 sent March 3 went pending May 8th anf they said 9 months from when it goes pending. Its a bunch if bull

Monopolyman · Post by **Monopolyman** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:52 pm

Papers went in on 9/9/13, pending 11/9/13. The young lady said 9 months, should have my suppressor by July. Did my papers in an NFA trust

firstsgtsteiner · Post by **firstsgtsteiner** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:06 pm

Sthncmft wrote:Check mailed 02/08/2013
Check cashed 02/11/20103
Went "pending " 04-22-2013
Still Waiting on my SBR...

Received My SBR stamp today...Was stamped 12-20-2013 on the front...Had a stamp on back dated 10-03-2013

Anyone know why it was stamped on the back in october and approved in december?

Glad I received it, but it was damn near 11 months from initial mailing to receiving stamp...

October was when the shutdown happened, all sorts of fuckery happened in those 3 weeks....

firstsgtsteiner · Post by **firstsgtsteiner** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:08 pm

L1A1Rocker wrote:February 11, 2013 I sent 3 Form 1s in under my trust (2 silencers, 1SBR)

July 29 (apx) I received the silencer Forms back for correction (sent back the next day)

May 3, the two silencer forms were approved

May 7, received one of the approved forms

May 10, SBR approved

May 21, received the other approved silencer

Still waiting on the SBR to arrive.

I find it odd that the form that was NOT returned for correction is the last one approved and received.

I may be having a blonde moment, but those dates are not adding up.... you sent in on 2/13, got rejected 7/13 but got the stamps 5/13???

hardcase · Post by **hardcase** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:27 pm

Sthncmft wrote:Check mailed 02/08/2013
Check cashed 02/11/20103
Went "pending " 04-22-2013
Still Waiting on my SBR...

Received My SBR stamp today...Was stamped 12-20-2013 on the front...Had a stamp on back dated 10-03-2013

Anyone know why it was stamped on the back in october and approved in december?

Glad I received it, but it was damn near 11 months from initial mailing to receiving stamp...

I hope I'm up next. They cashed my check 3-27 or 29, 2013.

I haven't heard squat.

eastern_hunter · Post by **eastern_hunter** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:21 pm

I have a pair of Form 4s for which the checks were cashed on 3/29.

The approvals on NFAtracker seem to be running in mid March now. So maybe we're two to three weeks away.

hardcase · Post by **hardcase** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:48 am

eastern_hunter wrote:I have a pair of Form 4s for which the checks were cashed on 3/29.

The approvals on NFAtracker seem to be running in mid March now. So maybe we're two to three weeks away.

I haven't called anyone yet, maybe I should just to make sure something is not missing since this is my first Form 4 and a Trust by a supposedly savvy NFA lawyer. I tried to search here for a number. Put in "NFA phone number" and it defaulted to phone. A lot of interesting posts but no number.

I tried the NFA Tracker but it choked when I couldn't put in the examiner's name.

Checks cashed March 29th, 2013.

Any help appreciated.

Tony M. · Post by **Tony M.** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:05 am

hardcase wrote:
eastern_hunter wrote:I have a pair of Form 4s for which the checks were cashed on 3/29.

The approvals on NFAtracker seem to be running in mid March now. So maybe we're two to three weeks away.
I haven't called anyone yet, maybe I should just to make sure something is not missing since this is my first Form 4 and a Trust by a supposedly savvy NFA lawyer. I tried to search here for a number. Put in "NFA phone number" and it defaulted to phone. A lot of interesting posts but no number.

I tried the NFA Tracker but it choked when I couldn't put in the examiner's name.

Checks cashed March 29th, 2013.

Any help appreciated.

ATF's NFA Branch: 304 616-4500

hardcase · Post by **hardcase** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:21 pm

Tony M. wrote:
hardcase wrote:
eastern_hunter wrote:I have a pair of Form 4s for which the checks were cashed on 3/29.

The approvals on NFAtracker seem to be running in mid March now. So maybe we're two to three weeks away.
I haven't called anyone yet, maybe I should just to make sure something is not missing since this is my first Form 4 and a Trust by a supposedly savvy NFA lawyer. I tried to search here for a number. Put in "NFA phone number" and it defaulted to phone. A lot of interesting posts but no number.

I tried the NFA Tracker but it choked when I couldn't put in the examiner's name.

Checks cashed March 29th, 2013.

Any help appreciated.
ATF's NFA Branch: 304 616-4500

Thanks for the info

hardcase · Post by **hardcase** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:01 pm

Thanks again to Tony M for the number.

I called ATF today for the first time since my check was cashed March 29. 2013. This is my first Form 4 on a trust. The person that answered said my form was to be completed next month and issued May 21st with the stamp going to my dealer.

I'm not exactly sure what the word "completed" means. I ask the representative if they would contact me or my dealer if there was a problem. He said they would contact my dealer. Fingers and toes crossed as it seems like forever since I bought these two cans, one for a .40 S&W and one for a .308.

Juan916Ebay · Post by **Juan916Ebay** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:23 pm

I sent by form 1 3/8/13 and went pending 5/9/13 and recived my stamp 1/18/14 just about 9months since pending. The form was dated by the examiner on 1/10/14

oldcoot · Post by **oldcoot** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:15 pm

A word of caution to you all:

I bought 5 suppressors in Nov & just found out my dealer submitted e-form on only one of them! The other 4 were submitted on paper! Even though I was promised e-file on all 5 (via phone & email).

Not a happy camper.

wacki · Post by **wacki** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:38 am

Tell him to cancel and resubmit.

RJT · Post by **RJT** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:22 pm

oldcoot wrote:A word of caution to you all:

I bought 5 suppressors in Nov & just found out my dealer submitted e-form on only one of them! The other 4 were submitted on paper! Even though I was promised e-file on all 5 (via phone & email).

Not a happy camper.

I see you're in the LSS. We must have bought from the same dealer, as I found out the same thing on the ones I thought were going to be e-filed as well.

Tony M. · Post by **Tony M.** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:18 pm

I don't get why any dealer would do that if the items were in stock. Something certainly smells fishy.

oldcoot · Post by **oldcoot** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:42 pm

RJT wrote:
oldcoot wrote:A word of caution to you all:

I bought 5 suppressors in Nov & just found out my dealer submitted e-form on only one of them! The other 4 were submitted on paper! Even though I was promised e-file on all 5 (via phone & email).

Not a happy camper.

I see you're in the LSS. We must have bought from the same dealer, as I found out the same thing on the ones I thought were going to be e-filed as well.

I suspect that we did purchase from the same dealer. I have received multiple different reasons from said dealer for "the misunderstanding" (all different & all conflicting). What I have not received is any concern or interest from them to rectify the situation.

hardcase · Post by **hardcase** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:42 am

Did you guys who purchased the 5 cans get Serial Numbers? When I call to check on mine, I had to give the NFA guy the brand of the can, the SN, and the dealers name to check.

These type things are one of the things I hate about purchasing cans. You have to pay up front for your stuff, hope the dealer doesn't go bankrupt or is a shady character or dies or whatever. I wished there was someway a third party, like an attorney's trust account is for Real Estate funds, to keep these valuable purchases for a year or more.

RJT · Post by **RJT** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:02 pm

wacki wrote:Tell him to cancel and resubmit.

Went pending early Oct, and NFA Branch told me June the other day. At this point, I would get them at the same time either way.

L1A1Rocker · Post by **L1A1Rocker** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:56 pm

Well, my SBR From 1 came today. That would be just 3 days shy of ONE YEAR. As you know; it was approved on Dec 10th but never arrived. January 23 I faxed for a copy. Today I found a letter addressed to my trust from the ATF postmarked January 30.

Opening the envelope I noticed right off it had an original stamp on it. I figured they did that for "official" copies. Unfolding relieved a sticky note. It was an apology signed by the same person that signed the Form 1. Apology? For what? Further examination down the page showed a nice roller-ball ink signature - not a copy. And at the top left corner were staple holes. Well now, how about that.

I'm figuring that my copy was never mailed. When the examiner went to go get the ATF's form to make me a copy they discovered both originals in the file and mailed me mine.

So how often is it you get an apology from the ATF anyway?

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