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Sbr ar. For 1 question

Post by GTO_Kroh » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:06 pm

I was told to file my former 1 with the shortest barrel I was going to use. As going longer is ok but not shorter than how it was filed.

Mine is already filed with a 5.5" 9mm upper and currently in tax stamp limbo. But just making sure I was correct on how I filed it. (E-filed form 1)

Also when I get it back I need to engrave my trust name,town and state on it correct?

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Post by T-Rex » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:35 pm

You can use whatever configuration upper you would like to, longer or shorter. You are registering it as an SBR.
You need only be able to return it to the registered configuration.
Yes, to your engraving Q.
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Post by TEXMEX » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:27 pm

T-Rex wrote:You can use whatever configuration upper you would like to, longer or shorter. You are registering it as an SBR.
You need only be able to return it to the registered configuration.
Yes, to your engraving Q.
Reference, please.

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Post by T-Rex » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:34 am

This will be the same for the other thread you are querying.
Have you Form 1'd a rifle?
What is the ATF agent going to say when you hand him paperwork for a 9", 9mm SBR, when you are holding a 12", 5.56mm rifle?
Not only this, but I've been told it by almost every agent I've spoken too.
Oh, and the form return/edit sheets, I've been mailed, over the numerous years I've been collecting NFA items.

The mere fact that you are REGISTERING a specific caliber, barrel length & OAL would lend insight as to what needs to be adhered to.
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Post by [email protected] » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:31 am

Trust name, city and state on engraving, something like this.
SUPER NFA TRUST
PLACECITY, TX

For registration, what the firearm you're manufacturing is what the details will be. Longer or shorter later on, doesn't matter so much.

For a 10.5" 5.56, a 5.56 SBR with a barrel length of 10.5" is what the firearm is. If you put on a 4" 22LR upper, it's a temporary change in configuration. Same goes with a 10.5" 300 blackout upper, or whatever else. No alteration to the firearm, on the books it's still a 10.5" 5.56. If you can put it back to the configuration listed on the Form 1, you're good.

If you ever change the registered configuration, the ATF asks you notify them in writing to update the registry. So if you said said 10.5" 5.56 upper, and only go 7.5", they want a letter of notification to keep the registry current.
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Post by Marsblue » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:46 am

[email protected] wrote:Trust name, city and state on engraving, something like this.
SUPER NFA TRUST
PLACECITY, TX

For registration, what the firearm you're manufacturing is what the details will be. Longer or shorter later on, doesn't matter so much.

For a 10.5" 5.56, a 5.56 SBR with a barrel length of 10.5" is what the firearm is. If you put on a 4" 22LR upper, it's a temporary change in configuration. Same goes with a 10.5" 300 blackout upper, or whatever else. No alteration to the firearm, on the books it's still a 10.5" 5.56. If you can put it back to the configuration listed on the Form 1, you're good.

If you ever change the registered configuration, the ATF asks you notify them in writing to update the registry. So if you said said 10.5" 5.56 upper, and only go 7.5", they want a letter of notification to keep the registry current.
True on the changing parts and notifying. Some people find it easier when changing their permanent configuration (if they don't want an upper built up for the registered length) is to just keep an extra barrel in that length on hand. Doesn't matter if it is junk, as long as it could be installed :)

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Post by YugoRPK » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:42 pm

Total non issue in practice.

One thing you need to keep in mind though is that if you register 300 blk or 5.56 or whatever and that isnt stamped on the receiver you'll need to have the caliber designation engraved at he same time you do your maker designation. In practice, like the barrel length, no one is going to give a s--t except for internet commandos but rules is rules.
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