Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

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Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by RickS » Fri May 13, 2016 12:57 pm

Is a Form 5330.20 required for a form 1 SBR build with a trust?

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by Fulliautomatix » Fri May 13, 2016 2:18 pm

Are you asking if it is needed to build the Form 1 SBR, or if you need one to transport the SBR after you build it? I don't think the trust even comes into play.

It has always been my understanding that to transport a SBR out of state you're going to need the Form 20 regardless of Form 1 or Form 4.

But I can see where this could be an interesting discussion, what if your trustees are in multiple states?

Just because it creates more paperwork and makes things more difficult, I'm going to say you need to have a Form 20 to transport it out of state regardless. :lol:
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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by rimshaker » Fri May 13, 2016 2:57 pm

The citizenship compliance form? No it's not required with a trust. It's not required on eForms either.

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by RickS » Fri May 13, 2016 5:52 pm

Yea the question was about filing to build a SBR, maybe one day, when I have a SBR, I can travel to a shoot somewere. :)

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by crazyelece » Mon May 16, 2016 9:50 am

The citizenship compliance form is not required anymore for any form, any type of filer (corp, individual, trust, etc.)

They changed the forms and built the questions into the standard form1 and form4, individuals are the only ones required to fill out that particular section of the form though (until mid July anyway)

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by RickS » Tue May 17, 2016 7:35 pm

Ok that is good to know

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by Joker31D » Sat May 28, 2016 5:52 pm

In July you will, also a damn fingerprint card that my C-LEO has stopped allowing his deputies to do without a letter from an employer or agency requiring it for a job application. I have to go to the next county to pay $20 to have them print me even though I went through Federal Print examiners classes.
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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by AlabamaPaul » Sun May 29, 2016 10:09 am

Joker31D wrote:In July you will, also a damn fingerprint card that my C-LEO has stopped allowing his deputies to do without a letter from an employer or agency requiring it for a job application. I have to go to the next county to pay $20 to have them print me even though I went through Federal Print examiners classes.
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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by Joker31D » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:26 pm

I called and asked, they said you cant do your own, even if your federally certified. Its to add another identification step.
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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by AlabamaPaul » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:21 am

Joker31D wrote:I called and asked, they said you cant do your own, even if your federally certified. Its to add another identification step.
That is incorrect. People have been doing their own for individual filings for years.

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Re: Form 5330.20 required with a trust?

Post by Joker31D » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:19 pm

hmm, i wonder if it was something new or if it was a disinformation thing. I know how to classify and compare prints and have even testified in federal court about a match on a partial we found on an ied. Im pretty damn sure I can roll prints, I have been doing it since 1993 when i interned at a dept in Maryland.
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