I have my C&R FFL.
If I was to buy a C&R machine gun, could I handle the transfer directly?
Thanks,
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Wrong answer - no points this roundrockman96 wrote:No. You will need to go through a Class III dealer for that.
As a C&R holder, if I want to buy a C&R Sten, or other qualified MG, I send the money to the dealer, or individual, we file the Form 4 and I submit the Form 4, with a copy of my C&R. The seller (dealer or individual) ships the approved Form 4 and MG directly to me.
The key is finding a C&R elegible MG. Many of the Stens I have seen are pre-86 dealer samples. The firearm has to be over 50 years old too. That's 1958 or earlier now.
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C+R guns are not always 50yrs old. Things get determined to be C+R by limited production, gold plating, other things to make a gun collectable
All West Hurley M1A1 are C&R as are the commemoratives
https://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem. ... =132633778
All West Hurley M1A1 are C&R as are the commemoratives
https://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem. ... =132633778
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True enough ... but all firearms become C&R automatically when they hit the half-century mark .... only some are C&R before that.David Hineline wrote:C+R guns are not always 50yrs old. Things get determined to be C+R by limited production, gold plating, other things to make a gun collectable
All West Hurley M1A1 are C&R as are the commemoratives
https://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem. ... =132633778
I imagine if you could locate one of the AR-15's that the police used to end that N Hollywood shootout, you could make an argument that the value of that particular rifle is gained from its link to that historical event, but it is probably just as easy to go through your FFL.
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I'd recommend an Armalite Costa-Mesa AR18. These MGs have a gas piston & are extremely accurate; priced right too...dcmdon wrote:I have my C&R FFL.
If I was to buy a C&R machine gun, could I handle the transfer directly?
Thanks,
Don
You can have it shipped right to your door with an 03FFL.
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This is good to know. Sorry for spewing bad info....I really thought you had to have the Class III status to do any transfer. This is good.WhisperFan wrote:Wrong answer - no points this roundrockman96 wrote:No. You will need to go through a Class III dealer for that.
As a C&R holder, if I want to buy a C&R Sten, or other qualified MG, I send the money to the dealer, or individual, we file the Form 4 and I submit the Form 4, with a copy of my C&R. The seller (dealer or individual) ships the approved Form 4 and MG directly to me.
The key is finding a C&R elegible MG. Many of the Stens I have seen are pre-86 dealer samples. The firearm has to be over 50 years old too. That's 1958 or earlier now.
Guys, thanks for the discussion. I thought the firearm's C&R status "trumped" its class 3 status, but its good to know.
With that said, is it true that most Thompsons are C&R?
Re the AR18, its not 50 yrs old, so how is it eligible? Just because its on the eligible list? (and how it got there is anyones guess?)
This has been very helpful.
Thanks,
Don
With that said, is it true that most Thompsons are C&R?
Re the AR18, its not 50 yrs old, so how is it eligible? Just because its on the eligible list? (and how it got there is anyones guess?)
This has been very helpful.
Thanks,
Don
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With that said, is it true that most Thompsons are C&R?
I don't know what most Thompsons are. Original WWII era ones for sure. Later Production West Hurley guns depends upon the production numbers of the particular model you are looking at.
I don't know what most Thompsons are. Original WWII era ones for sure. Later Production West Hurley guns depends upon the production numbers of the particular model you are looking at.
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For a Title I gun, sure. Just have it transferred through your local FFL.WhisperFan wrote: I imagine if you could locate one of the AR-15's... make an argument that the value of that particular rifle... but it is probably just as easy to go through your FFL.
The real advantage of using a C&R FFL to buy C&R NFA is that it speeds up the process. The gun transfers directly to you, and doesn't have to go through an FFL in your state - you are the FFL. This saves the time it takes for the gun to transfer from out of state to your dealer.
And I've had some dealer-to-dealer transfers take longer than the dealer-to-me transfer.
Oh yeah, and the official List can be found at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/index.htm.
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