Explain this "new" MG to me

chingon · Post by **chingon** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:39 pm

This looks like a modern DPMS lower, can someone explain to me the ways it is legal? I am a NFA newbie

WhisperFan · Post by **WhisperFan** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:11 pm

Looks like a post sample to me.

An 01/SOT dealer with a sample letter can buy one.
An 07/SOT can make one.

I don't believe it can be transferrable.

Silent Shooters · Post by **Silent Shooters** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:55 pm

if someone is trying to sell it to you as a transferable i would run for the hills.

David Hineline · Post by **David Hineline** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:01 pm

chingon wrote:
This looks like a modern DPMS lower, can someone explain to me the ways it is legal? I am a NFA newbie

Imported machineguns must be registered pre 68 to be transferable
US manuf. machineguns must be registered pre 1986 to be transferable

Any other guns are for Law Enf. or dealers who sell to law enf.

okent · Post by **okent** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:19 pm

That pic is from the Black Dog Mag company website.
Advertising their new 50 round .22lr drum.
Post sample, not for sale to us meer mortals.

waco · Post by **waco** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:29 pm

Have to get me one of those for my RR.

the1mavin · Post by **the1mavin** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:08 pm

waco wrote:Have to get me one of those for my RR.

ditto!

chingon · Post by **chingon** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:38 pm

Thanks for educating me

Selectedmarksman · Post by **Selectedmarksman** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:29 pm

Awesome Pic... Real machine-gun, UTG (Airsoft company) railed forearm.

Any bets on if the light/optics are real vs. Chinese knock-offs?

Smilodon · Post by **Smilodon** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:53 am

OT, Chingon your avatar is awesome!

Twinsen · Post by **Twinsen** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:11 am

The UTG and Chinese optics... blood pressure rising.

LawBob · Post by **LawBob** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:41 pm

It could have a DIAS or a Lightning Link in reality.
The "new" lower would prob have to be milled to accept either.

WhisperFan · Post by **WhisperFan** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:47 pm

LawBob wrote:It could have a DIAS or a Lightning Link in reality.
The "new" lower would prob have to be milled to accept either.

Not really - that pin above the selector is for the auto sear. That hole makes the lower a MG - even if the auto parts aren't installed.

There is no real way for that lower to be a transferable MG. It could be a fake ... someone could have taken a semi-auto lower, and put a little silver sticky dot of some type on the lower.

But it looks real to me.

renegade · Post by **renegade** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:49 pm

Could be anything. Lots of folks are getting fake sear holes done.

WhisperFan · Post by **WhisperFan** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:14 pm

renegade wrote:Could be anything. Lots of folks are getting fake sear holes done.

True - but if it is the right size hole, in the right place .... the ATF will consider that a post 86 - with the correct installed parts - or not.

jjgow · Post by **jjgow** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:57 pm

The fake sear holes do not go all the way through.

continuity · Post by **continuity** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:17 am

Sear hole(s) or not, any AR that allows the safety/selector switch to move into that position would make me nervous. I'd leave it alone.

rapidfirearms · Post by **rapidfirearms** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:38 pm

It is a post sample. Only transferable to LEO or other SOT dealer with demo letter.

It looks identical except i have a YHM rail to the dedicated m16- 22 i just built.

I need to order some of the 50 round mags for it too. The hole above the selector is an auto sear hole.

BlackDog either put there manufacturing marks on the other side, or asked the ATF for a variance.

PeteSB · Post by **PeteSB** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:05 am

Smilodon wrote:OT, Chingon your avatar is awesome!

+1,000, I'm having a hard time remembering the thread topic!

dino1 · Post by **dino1** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:39 pm

Don't those shitty colt 22's have fake auto sear holes and pins??

renegade · Post by **renegade** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:41 pm

dino1 wrote:Don't those shitty colt 22's have fake auto sear holes and pins??

Fake holes, no pins

Explain this "new" MG to me

Explain this "new" MG to me

Re: Explain this "new" MG to me

Its a post sample