Muzzle attachments for SBR's WITHOUT cans

chp5 · Post by **chp5** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:41 pm

I shot my 11.5 SBR yesterday with the Troy "Claymore" muzzle brake. Pics here: viewtopic.php?p=560130#560130

Similar to the Noveske Flaming Pig - it seemed to funnel the loud report on the SBR away from the shooter and downrange. However, shooting XM193 near dusk, the flash was very noticeable through the Aimpoint and would likely disturb the shooter's vision in darker environments. Too bad, because I otherwise liked it.

What are you guys running for muzzle attachments on your SBR's WITHOUT cans? What do you like/dislike. Thx.

chingon · Post by **chingon** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:14 pm

Standard A1 flash hider

strobro32 · Post by **strobro32** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:37 am

I 've tried a few but I'm with chingon on this one.

DIY Hunting · Post by **DIY Hunting** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:06 am

I have no problems with a standard A1 flash hider on a 11.5

Post by **silencertalk** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:41 am

The AAC BLACKOUT flash suppressor of course.

504ranger · Post by **504ranger** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:10 am

Surefire FA556-212A on my 10.5". No problems here.

JasonAAC · Post by **JasonAAC** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:40 am

http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=29

Ronzo · Post by **Ronzo** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:09 am

Smith Enterprises Vortex. Vortex Bi-lock

Mageever · Post by **Mageever** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:48 am

I haven't got it yet, but I'm planning on using PWS' CQB Comp. It's designed to throw the blast forward, and then secondary to that is to work as a flash suppressor.

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/view ... category=6

jdj · Post by **jdj** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:37 pm

Mageever wrote:I haven't got it yet, but I'm planning on using PWS' CQB Comp. It's designed to throw the blast forward, and then secondary to that is to work as a flash suppressor.

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/view ... category=6

How is that thing not considered a single-baffled can? interesting.

dtom29 · Post by **dtom29** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:41 pm

Same sort of design as the "beer can" 4 piece flash hider/booster for a short barreled AK/krinkov.
That's what it is, a single baffled can....but it does nothing to silence the rifle.

rob_s · Post by **rob_s** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:00 pm

Shot a BCM 14.5" mid-length on Saturday that had a PWS FS556 on it that had ZERO barrel climb. It was unbelievable. Going to test that out against the Rainier similar offering and (hopefully) the AAC Brakeout.

Mageever · Post by **Mageever** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:03 pm

dtom29 wrote:Same sort of design as the "beer can" 4 piece flash hider/booster for a short barreled AK/krinkov.
That's what it is, a single baffled can....but it does nothing to silence the rifle.

Yeah, it's basically a grandfathered design. PWS submitted a different version initially that was less baffle-like and the ATF told them it would be a silencer. They then changed to this cone design and it was approved. Go figure.

Deathray · Post by **Deathray** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:36 pm

Mageever wrote:
dtom29 wrote:Same sort of design as the "beer can" 4 piece flash hider/booster for a short barreled AK/krinkov.
That's what it is, a single baffled can....but it does nothing to silence the rifle.
Yeah, it's basically a grandfathered design. PWS submitted a different version initially that was less baffle-like and the ATF told them it would be a silencer. They then changed to this cone design and it was approved. Go figure.

That's exactly what Noveske did. He took a Bulgarian beer can kinkov booster and made a thread adapter for it to stick it on an AR. A little piggie engraving later and he's heralded as some sort of super genius.

chp5 · Post by **chp5** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:50 pm

yep - have you shot the Flaming Pig on an SBR? If so, what did you think?

Deathray · Post by **Deathray** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:14 pm

Yes.

While it worked, and was really neato looking, I'm with the A1 flash hider groupie clique. It just plain can't be beat for the value.

strobro32 · Post by **strobro32** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:49 am

chp5 wrote:yep - have you shot the Flaming Pig on an SBR? If so, what did you think?

I ran it for about 6 months on my 11.5. Sold it. I didn't like the weight and I felt the sound redirection and $ wasn't worth the benefit. A1 all the way.

PTK · Post by **PTK** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:05 am

I prefer AAC Blackout QD mounts on SBRs and such. I run one on my PLR-16, and the amount of flash reduction is nearly mythical.

For downrange noise, it doesn't do much as my friends' Noveske muzzle attachments, but it's cheaper, and I can slip the silencer on there whenever I need.

JustaPhule · Post by **JustaPhule** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:32 am

Used the Pig on my 7.5" 6.8spc, didn't like it. I now have a Vltor VC-301 (very similar to an A1) it worked to redirect the blast downrange, but I just didn't care for the Pig.

Derf · Post by **Derf** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:37 am

Im a fan of the Carlson Comp. Same size as an A1, but has two big ass slots at the top so all the gas up.

Baboon · Post by **Baboon** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:55 am

I just received a Smith Vortex that's going on a registered receiver H&K G3K.

ThePatriot · Post by **ThePatriot** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:33 pm

Noveske KX3 is my fav

LawBob · Post by **LawBob** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:44 pm

chingon wrote:Standard A1 flash hider

get your GUNS UP red raider. That pic is kickin

noiseless · Post by **noiseless** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:21 am

Blackout or AAC Muzzle Brake

Wicked · Post by **Wicked** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:14 am

I have the YHM Phantom 5C2 on both a 11.5" and 16" barrel. Flash suppression is very good and they are fairly inexpensive.

EDIT: This weekend I attended a training class and ran both uppers. During the day sessions there was no flash from either barrel length. I ran only the 11.5" upper during the night session. I shot 230 rds of both Wolf poly and XM193. There really was nothing in the way of actual flash; but there was a pretty good circular shaped spray of flaming embers (burning powder). A bit like taking a disc grinding wheel to steel. This was clearly visible through the optic and in my periphial vision. I should have shot the 16" barrel to see if it did the same, but I bet not.