Glock M18

ArevaloSOCOM · Post by **ArevaloSOCOM** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:20 pm

LEO/MIL only.............

sucks, I know.

D.C. Vs. Parker might lead to the death of the MG ban in time........I pray.

zach h · Post by **zach h** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:09 am

now that you guys bring this up I need to make a couple for myself , er ,the buisness.

markm · Post by **markm** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:53 am

I agree with the guys who have expressed concern over why the hell any L.E. scenario would call for a G18.

I'm completely PRO Law Enforcement for sure.

But the G18 really has no place other than a recreational/sporting gun for civilian ownership only. I suppose you could make some justification for Mil use however, but basically it should be for CIVI USE ONLY!

NickB · Post by **NickB** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:40 pm

Full auto G21, anybody?

At least I think that's the G21...we had a 19, 17, and 21 converted that day...

renegade · Post by **renegade** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:57 pm

pneumagger wrote:Sounds like they are rare... but just how much does a transferable Glock 18c cost?

$0 since there are none.

chief · Post by **chief** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:10 pm

markm wrote:I agree with the guys who have expressed concern over why the hell any L.E. scenario would call for a G18.

I'm completely PRO Law Enforcement for sure.

But the G18 really has no place other than a recreational/sporting gun for civilian ownership only. I suppose you could make some justification for Mil use however, but basically it should be for CIVI USE ONLY!

That seems to be the opinion of most people, even LEO's who have shot one, but there is a huge difference between just shooting one and being properly trained on how to operate with one. It is a highly effective tool when it is used properly within it's design limitations.

joshuap · Post by **joshuap** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:33 pm

Renegade, your statement is incorrect. I know of 2 full auto glocks in the registery on Form 4s.

Post by **silencertalk** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:16 pm

joshuap wrote:Renegade, your statement is incorrect. I know of 2 full auto glocks in the registery on Form 4s.

Impossible to be legal unless it was made before 1968 GCA or unless it was a converted G17 (which is not a G18).

renegade · Post by **renegade** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:05 pm

joshuap wrote:Renegade, your statement is incorrect. I know of 2 full auto glocks in the registery on Form 4s.

I am not wrong.

There are no "transferable Glock 18c" firearms. None, Nada, Zilch.

There maybe some conversion guns, or even some switches, but no factory transferables.

ArevaloSOCOM · Post by **ArevaloSOCOM** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:57 pm

Yeah I'm pretty sure robert and Renagde are right on this one.

joshuap · Post by **joshuap** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:30 am

The one question asked was whether there were any transferable full auto glocks, not specifically the G18C. The two that I know of in the registry are G17s with conversions.

Post by **silencertalk** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:33 am

I have owned a converted G17 and cared so little about it I gave it away. On the other hand, I want a G18 real bad. I do not consider them the same, though I agree many people do. Then again, guys who have DIASs thing they have an M16, and they don't. Also gave away a (dealer sample) DIAS.\

In college my friend had a Buick GN. He wished he had a GNX. He did some mods to it. He put on the body parts. He put on the badges. Know what? He never had a GNX no matter what he thought.

robino · Post by **robino** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:40 pm

wait a minute...
so you can't have a G18 unless you're an SOT

but you CAN have a converted G17? What are the requirements?

dieselten · Post by **dieselten** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:21 pm

robino wrote:... What are the requirements?

1. Find one for sale

2. Buy it.

cqbdoc10 · Post by **cqbdoc10** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:29 pm

rsilvers wrote:I have owned a converted G17 and cared so little about it I gave it away. On the other hand, I want a G18 real bad. I do not consider them the same, though I agree many people do. Then again, guys who have DIASs thing they have an M16, and they don't. Also gave away a (dealer sample) DIAS.\

In college my friend had a Buick GN. He wished he had a GNX. He did some mods to it. He put on the body parts. He put on the badges. Know what? He never had a GNX no matter what he thought.

If you have any other items that you would like to give away, just let me know.

pneumagger · Post by **pneumagger** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:30 pm

How much does a converted G17 cost?
If I find a presample normal G17, can I convert it?

Can I just go ahead and convert a pair of G20 pistols to facilitate the breaking of my wrists... or would the nursing of my poor hands be done in federal prison?

3101 · Post by **3101** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:34 pm

don't go to prison with broken wrists.....just makes biting your pillow more uncomfortable...

robino · Post by **robino** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:13 pm

no seriously...

a converted G17 would fall under what form / type weapon?

3101 · Post by **3101** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:17 pm

a G 17 converted to select fire is a machine gun....

MrPhotoGuyInc · Post by **MrPhotoGuyInc** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:21 pm

GaLEO wrote:don't go to prison with broken wrists.....just makes biting your pillow more uncomfortable...

LOLLLL... NO s--t

SFCat66 · Post by **SFCat66** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:48 pm

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... 948324#PIC

chief · Post by **chief** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:05 pm

Any LE agency that pays that price is really stupid since Glock only charges about $575 for one.

FSCJedi · Post by **FSCJedi** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:32 pm

So let me get this straight...

I can buy a 3rd Gen. Glock 17 ("C" for personal preference and contollability), and then legally have it converted with a select-fire switch? Is three-round-burst an option instead of full auto?

Someone link me to someone who does these conversions, please!

Edited: P.S. Hi everyone! This is my first post. I was referred here by the FN Forums because I'm getting a PS90 SBR and silencer here in the near future.

joshuap · Post by **joshuap** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:11 am

To answer your question, No you cannot get a select fire switch and convert it. You would need to buy one of the few (2 or 3) already registered full auto glock 17s. If you did it today, you would be making a new machine gun, which is illegal. If you became a manufacturer, or were selling to Police Departments, and had a PD love letter, then you could make/acquire a new full auto Glock 18c.

Golovko · Post by **Golovko** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:51 pm

pneumagger wrote:...If I find a presample normal G17, can I convert it?...

There's no such thing as a presample normal G17. The terms 'presample' and 'postsample' are used only to describe machineguns. Any Glock pistol that can be referred to as a presample is already a machinegun and doesn't need to be converted. Anyone who has a Glock and wants it to be converted to full-auto is already way too late. There are only two options for legally converting a Glock pistol into a machinegun:

1. Become a licensed manufacturer and make them yourself.

2. Figure out a way to get your Glock registered and converted 21 years ago.