Which GOP presidential hopefuls own guns and which don't?

[johndoe3]

An interesting article where the Washington Post writer sought to find out which of the 15 possible Republican presidential hopefuls for 2016 own guns and which don't.

http://www.charlestondailymail.com/arti ... 29164/1303

Of the 15, only Jeb Bush and Chris Christie own no guns. All the rest including Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Huckabee, Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, etc. own firearms.

[whiterussian1974]

I'm surprised that Jeb Bush doesn't given his Age, Family and Background. Yet given his politics and character, it's far LESS surprising.

He'll probably say that his dad gave him a shotgun when he graduated college. And get ready for a slew of photos and vids showing him skeet shooting.

I'd also like to hear which ones Graham owns and more important has shot in the past yr.

Shotgun is most likely. Handgun? Maybe a CCW but NOT any sort of action or defensive shooting sports.

Maybe all of the Hopefulls should go Upland Fowl hunting w Dick Cheney. That would prove courage, but not common sense.

[L1A1Rocker]

Ted Cruz did a photo op of him shooting. (it's not skeet shooting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjicZtVystc

[sillycon]

I'm waiting for any POTUS hopeful to post a video of his run at the creek!

[Chuck88]

American voters should be less concerned about which Democratic or Republican candidate to vote for, and more concerned about the fact that both the Democratic and Republican Parties are controlled by the same people...

It is time for a real third position.

[whiterussian1974]

...both the Democratic and Republican Parties are controlled by the same people...

It is time for a real third position.

The Tea Party tried and pressured both Parties in select districts. Green and Libertarian work in some local elections, but are too honest to win Federally.

Whiat platform would you propose? Remember Romney's comments about the 47% Parasite Class? It's almost impossible to get parasites to vote for a flea dip.

You'd have to pull people from multiple divergent groups together to form a coalition. And fund it w corporate $.

Maybe legalizing drugs and taxing the heck out of them? Private Prisons will be the hardest hit from that. Yet Minorities who feel that they are unequally serving prison time for drug offenses might support the measure. Yet Religious ethnic Minorities might object "to the Demon Rum."

You'd need to force rich people to pay exorbident taxes, fees, fines for immoral acts in rder to fund the Gov't. Maybe $1 million Human Hunting Permits? Or just sell Pardons directly instead of donating money to political campaigns?

[Chuck88]

What platform would you propose?

That's a tough question. Unfortunately, a careful study of history shows us that things are going to have to get a lot worse before they can get better. To put it succinctly, Americans have become too comfortable and complacent these days for them to become motivated enough to band together and fight for real solutions. Panem et Circenses. As long as the football game is on and there's a frosty brew in the fridge, self-determination will continue to slip thru our fingers.

Most folks expect nothing more of their politicians than to maintain the status quo. We will continue borrowing trillions from China whilst outsourcing more and more of our manufacturing there; we will continue allowing millions of foreigners into our land who simultaneously take jobs from already-unemployed Americans and collect massive government benefits with no intent of ever paying them back; we will continue sending trillions of dollars we don't have to our “ally” in the Middle East so they can fight wars we don’t want or need. The United States of America is on the fast-track to Third World status, but as long as peoples’ basic needs are met, the credit cards still swipe, and mindless entertainment remains cheap and plentiful, folks will continue to shy away from any “radical” or “extreme” measures which would guarantee the wellbeing of their progeny. We, as a society, have collectively sold out. Not for anything noble or virtuous, but rather for crappy Asian cars, Bud Light, and 21 minutes of cheap entertainment interrupted by nine minutes of cutthroat consumerism.

Things will get worse. I am 31 years old, and I have no doubt that I will see massive social upheaval in my lifetime. America produces virtually nothing anymore, and our seemingly endless line of credit is bound to run out eventually. The money changers are the ones who cast this into motion, and only when they are turned against ruthlessly will the door be opened for true social and political change. Their money effectively controls all major Hollywood studios and media institutions, most major corporations, the Ivy League, all major political parties, all major banks including the Federal Reserve, and much, much more. Keeping Americans in debt has become a multi-trillion dollar business. These same people control our Congress via massively-funded lobbies, and indeed a very significant (yet unknown) number of our congressmen/congresswomen and other high-level political figures hold dual-citizenship and loyalties to a Nation which is not our own. Should one small group of people be allowed that kind of control over a population that consists of 320 million people?

Revolution will happen, but getting there will be a long, painful process. America will probably balkanize. This is the cycle of life, and it is aligned perfectly with the laws of nature. When a significant portion of American families are no longer able to feed their children they will learn to seek nonconventional and presently unpopular alternatives to our current ruling elite.

Until then, I will continue to support conventional political parties who have the peoples’ best interest in mind such as The American Freedom Party, but I still believe that our prospect for achieving liberation via the ballot box remains dim.

http://american3rdposition.com/

[whiterussian1974]

What platform would you propose?

Unfortunately, a careful study of history shows us that things are going to have to get a lot worse before they can get better. To put it succinctly, Americans have become too comfortable and complacent these days for them to become motivated enough to band together and fight for real solutions. Panem et Circenses. As long as the football game is on and there's a frosty brew in the fridge, self-determination will continue to slip thru our fingers...

...I still believe that our prospect for achieving liberation via the ballot box remains dim.

You have an amazingly well researched and thought out grasp of the Historic precedants facing Western Republics. Especially for someone so young.

Our current media fascination with instituting Federally protected yr round Saturnalia and Bacchanalia. Any business or person that objects to participating is somehow a Hater and Bigot? (Indiana) Even to the point of requiring Cops and Fireman to be sexualized objects in "Pride" parades or losing their jobs and deferred compensation.

And even though surprisingly high #s of families can't afford housing or food, the Gov't confiscates money from workers to fund the 47%. Congress will Nationalize IRAs and deny Seniors life-saving and life-extending Healthcare w the justification that it's good economic policy. (Canada and our own VA already has.)

Eventually the Gov't will outlaw "hoarding" of essential materials like food, water, medicines, ammo. And Prepping will be outlawed. Even in the '80s people w honerable military service were defamed as "Rambo survivalists." Self-suficiancy was called "anti-social" and Supremacist. When Up is Dry, and Red is Salty any Lie repeated often and loudly enough becomes Truth. (Language Domination is a Tenet of Social Revolution.) Erosionist have dominated the Education and Media Systems far too long. The Right only seeks ShortTerm gain instead of the Long Con that the Left prefers. They have infiltrated the Institutions that you mention while "allowing" us to continue funding their insane programs by being Profit-seeking Capitalists instead of subverting the Nation through Fascist State control of Private Enterprise. Yet the past decade has shown that we are suffering many of the problems that Central Europe did in the 1930s. Enron, Solendra, KBR, BP, Environmental Cliques, NBC, MSNBC, Disney, Boeing, GM, etc. All are Publicly-funded "private sector" corporations that take tax money in return for supporting whichever Admin is currently in power.

Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton 2/Bush 3. All are just polarizing "BIg Brother/Dear Leaders" that are the public faces of the Elites. When Public opinion shifts, just insert a more pleasing puppet.

But the Fall of the Roman Empire is the best guide to America's future. Many other Empires have risen/fell over the centuries. We only gained parity w Western Europ during 1918-39. Then Supremacy from 1943-20??. Will China supplant us? Europe and Russia keep collapsing under the weight of their own Social Spending. Hands that take instead of working. High youth unemplyment rates b/c why pay manditory high Saleries for inexperienced workers?

China is very near to Russia during 1960-80s. Will their flimsy Reforms keep their Slave workers subdued? Can they maintain a tight control over media and repress Speech? History shows that Totalitarian Regimes require both Internal and External "Enemies." Who have the ChiComs taught their people to hate?

This Thread really needs to continue under a different Topic since we have strayed so far from the original Subject. I just can't think of a good Title.