Swift takeover of White House website, minutes after swearing in

[johndoe3]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/

This may portend quick action by the new Trump/Pence administration on other issues. Minutes after they were sworn in, the WhiteHouse.gov website was erased of all the Obama stuff, and replaced with a new Trump/Pence-centric website.

[poikilotrm]

During his speech, I wish Trump had turned to Hussein and said "If you like your legacy, you can keep your legacy.".

[a_canadian]

Yup, swept clean of any meaningful content. Replaced with a small handful of detail-free feel-good speeches. Especially enjoyed the one about how disrespect for police is the problem and police are going to be better supported... so I guess we'll see it go from 95% of bad shoots by cops resulting in a few weeks time off with full pay there will be a shift towards 100% officer innocence. Enjoy your new Cretin in Chief. I wonder how long it'll take before he gets caught assaulting an intern...

[johndoe3]

a_canadian,

back at you with "cash for access" charges against your PM.

[a_canadian]

Hey, I didn't vote for him. Guy won mostly because his daddy was one of the best leaders we've ever had, if not uncontroversial. I do hope Justin gets his act together and takes the job seriously, but his intentions are solid so that might happen. And he's not unintelligent, which helps. No hope for Trump on that score.

[TROOPER]

Yup, swept clean of any meaningful content. Replaced with a small handful of detail-free feel-good speeches. Especially enjoyed the one about how disrespect for police is the problem and police are going to be better supported... so I guess we'll see it go from 95% of bad shoots by cops resulting in a few weeks time off with full pay there will be a shift towards 100% officer innocence. Enjoy your new Cretin in Chief. I wonder how long it'll take before he gets caught assaulting an intern...

Leftists are so selective in their reality.

First, Obama sent his justice department to "investigate" Ferguson after as clean a shoot as you're likely to see, and while they found no evidence of any wrong-doing on any level with the Michael Brown scenario, they still found a "pattern of words-and-syllables" which put the local police department under their control.

Clean shoot, no support from the President. The opposite, in fact, as he tacitly supported BLM who continues to this day to run with the tired lie of "hands-up, don't-shoot". Funny, because black Eric Holder found that testimony to be 100% false... but couldn't be bothered to set the public record straight.

Second, Clinton actually assaulted an intern. So not sure why you're projecting that onto Trump as it was your party that actually does what you accuse others of doing. And before you come back with "she was an adult, so it wasn't assault" -- false. Since Clinton was her boss by default, it was a position of authority, and therefore consent couldn't be given.

[a_canadian]

First, Obama sent his justice department to "investigate" Ferguson after as clean a shoot as you're likely to see, and while they found no evidence of any wrong-doing on any level with the Michael Brown scenario, they still found a "pattern of words-and-syllables" which put the local police department under their control.

Clean shoot, no support from the President. The opposite, in fact, as he tacitly supported BLM who continues to this day to run with the tired lie of "hands-up, don't-shoot". Funny, because black Eric Holder found that testimony to be 100% false... but couldn't be bothered to set the public record straight.

Wait, what? When did I suggest Michael Brown's shooting was anything but legitimate? In fact I recall saying somewhere else here on the forum (sorry, can't recall which thread) that MB was a two bit thug or something to that effect. He was a bully, and minutes before the shooting had been stealing from a convenience store by intimidation if not with a weapon. Seemed pretty clear that he intended to at least assault the officer who ended up killing him, probably intended to murder the cop. I have no problem with that shooting. I was referring to the hundreds and hundreds of illegitimate deaths at the hands of police in the past few years, many of which result in a bit of extra paperwork but no disciplinary actions against officers involved, let alone charges. Same for so very many beatings, rapes, and other abuses of police power.

Second, Clinton actually assaulted an intern. So not sure why you're projecting that onto Trump as it was your party that actually does what you accuse others of doing. And before you come back with "she was an adult, so it wasn't assault" -- false. Since Clinton was her boss by default, it was a position of authority, and therefore consent couldn't be given.

Again I'm stumped. Firstly, regardless of your prohibition on such a comment, the affair was between two adults over a period of a year or more. She could have left it and her position as an intern at any time. Was she being held captive? Mind control perhaps? One time is assault. Sticking around IN THE SAME DAMNED HOUSE for multiple liaisons is an affair. They weren't married, it's not like they had kids together and she was trapped by that connection. She could have left at any time and gone on the talk show circuit with her story and made a fortune (something she later did anyway), but chose to stay because that was her preference.

Second, his 'crime' in this case was not assault, it was perjury during testimony regarding the inappropriate affair with an intern. Perjury during testimony about his sex life... which is just weird. I won't pretend to even begin to understand your country's amazingly perverse attitudes regarding sex... the blatant contradictions between 'christian' morality and wholesale production of and profit from pornography. The puritanical standards to which your elected officials are supposedly held in contrast to the supposed separation of church and state. A land of contrasts, one might say.

And thirdly, as for Clinton being someone from 'my party'... please, don't insult me. I've never supported such right-wing asshole war criminals as Clinton. Didn't vote for Trudeau either, he's too pro-corporate, not nearly progressive enough for my tastes.

Lastly, I'll just leave this creepy little picture here:

[TROOPER]

Yup, swept clean of any meaningful content. Replaced with a small handful of detail-free feel-good speeches. Especially enjoyed the one about how disrespect for police is the problem and police are going to be better supported... so I guess we'll see it go from 95% of bad shoots by cops resulting in a few weeks time off with full pay there will be a shift towards 100% officer innocence. Enjoy your new Cretin in Chief. I wonder how long it'll take before he gets caught assaulting an intern...

One at a time:

First, Trump is pointing out how the police are going to be better supported. I mention Ferguson as an example where the police were specifically NOT supported by the POTUS and his ilk.

You're interested in setting straight some record regarding your stance on Ferguson... why? This isn't about your stance, it's about Obama's stance versus, by implication, what Trump's stance would have been.

You seem to disagree that the police, as an institution, are harmed by the last administration, or that there's room for improvement on the matter, despite the example I just cited. You can't wrap your mind around the concept that whether or not police misconduct exists has nothing to do with whether or not the last POTUS erroneously gave encouragement to BLM and their never ending lies while simultaneously publicly chastising police when the subsequent investigation by HIS TEAM found ZERO wrong-doing.

Two, no, nope, and hell-no. The subordinate is coming from a stance of lower power. Unless they go to HR and clear it up, there's always the question of coercion. You don't know her mindset -- and neither do I, for that matter -- but he approached her under the umbrella of his authority.

Deal with that reality.

"It's just a matter of time before Trump grabs an intern." Yeah ok, it's just a matter of history that your hero stuffed a cigar up an intern's vagina.

As far as that picture goes... great. Wonderful. Just really first rate. I wonder if ol' Bill Clinton gets a chuckle out of it while flying aboard Lolita Express to pedophile island to f**k kids.

[a_canadian]

Bill Clinton. My hero. Yeah, right. The guy who ordered the bombing of Yugoslavia on Christmas. No thanks. But keep dreaming whatever makes you happy, I'm sure Trump will prove that White Men are always in the right and BLM has 100% Nothing To Complain About. It'll Be Huge. There, enough upper case for you? What a farce. If Trump isn't impeached and in jail within 2 years I'll be even more deeply disappointed in your country, which frankly seems impossible considering the new lows it's sinking to.

[TROOPER]

Bill Clinton. My hero. Yeah, right. The guy who ordered the bombing of Yugoslavia on Christmas. No thanks. But keep dreaming whatever makes you happy, I'm sure Trump will prove that White Men are always in the right and BLM has 100% Nothing To Complain About. It'll Be Huge. There, enough upper case for you? What a farce. If Trump isn't impeached and in jail within 2 years I'll be even more deeply disappointed in your country, which frankly seems impossible considering the new lows it's sinking to.

And there it is... irrational racism and projection of it onto others.

Nevermind that you're so incredibly stupid. Impeached? For what? He's broken laws? Or are you of the opinion that the government should put any political enemy in prison for simply existing? Why aren't you in jail yet?

Disappointed in our country? You've completely misunderstood why I didn't ask your opinion on the matter: it's because I don't care.

[a_canadian]

So the ways in which Trump has "under the umbrella of his authority" violated almost every element of your precious First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America doesn't bother you? His blanket ban on entry to people from 7 predominantly Muslim countries being just one of the more obvious among these, alongside his numerous statements regarding the corruption of any journalist or journalistic institution which he happens not to like, and I suppose you don't want to pay any attention to his cooperation with a foreign government in the subversion of the election which got him into power... No, none of that deserves jail time. Of course not. After all, the guy made a name for himself by losing other people's billions, so why shouldn't he be idolized for violating your constitution? It's just fun and games in the age of big business posing as government.

[poikilotrm]

I want more info on how Billy Jeff Clinton was right wing.

[a_canadian]

Doesn't surprise me. When I went to grade 12 in the USA I was surprised, surprised to find that it was necessary to explain US history to my fellow students. They had very little idea of even the most rudimentary elements of the country's history of manipulations outside the country's borders, and almost as little understanding of domestic political history. Clinton's crimes abroad were many and bloody. Look it the F--k up, Pokie. Oh, but you're too lazy, as you said in that other thread about how your friend supposedly got targeted by leftist bloggers or some crap...

[poikilotrm]

Clinton is and was a fucking commie. That ain't right wing.

[a_canadian]

Perhaps you mean 'commie' in the sake sense that some might suggest Putin is a commie? In other words a ruthless self-aggrandizing capitalist? 'Cause if Clinton was such a big commie, he certainly didn't cozy up to any actual Marxist-Leninist types. In fact those camps tended to hate him. Corporations loved him, as Clinton was very easily bought. Again, American schooling... such a sad waste of young minds.

[poikilotrm]

Perhaps you mean 'commie' in the sake sense that some might suggest Putin is a commie? In other words a ruthless self-aggrandizing capitalist? 'Cause if Clinton was such a big commie, he certainly didn't cozy up to any actual Marxist-Leninist types. In fact those camps tended to hate him. Corporations loved him, as Clinton was very easily bought. Again, American schooling... such a sad waste of young minds.

You sir, are an idiot. Clinton was a Third Way socialist. It was discussed at great length when he was in power. He has always been a left wing scumbag. And being left wing doesn't mean "incapable of kleptocratic behavior", nor does it mean "incorrupt". Just ask Bill Gates about his little golf game with Billy Jeff, and what came after.