Legendary suppressed pistols

Simon · Post by **Simon** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:17 am

Just wondered about suppressed pistols that saw real service and made a little list. Any additional suggestions?
> High Standard HD: WWII, Vietnam, still in some Marine recon units
> MK 22 Mod. 0 with the "Hush Puppy" suppressor: Vietnam (SEALs)
> MK 23 Mod. 0 (?)

what about the SIG Sauers the Seals used before the MK 23 SOCOm was invented (or still use?), does it have a "Mk XX Mod. 0" designation in a silenced version?

Stephen Gray · Post by **Stephen Gray** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:07 pm

SEALs still use the SIGs primarily. Or did in 2005. (I just finished reading "Lone Survivor", highly recommend it btw).

Conqueror · Post by **Conqueror** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:43 pm

SEALs also use integral Ruger .22s, but I don't know the manufacturer.

Hush · Post by **Hush** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:56 pm

Don't forget Blackjack Pershing and his troops brought some Maxim's along into his forage down old Mexico.

Suputin · Post by **Suputin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:39 pm

dragoon · Post by **dragoon** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:10 pm

The Welrod , like someone just illustrated .
The Walther PPK in .22 was popular in WWII with the NAZIs , as was the .32 CZ .
The .32 and .380 Walther PPKs saw service with our troops (MACSOG) in Vietnam , as did the silenced .45 1911A1 .
The Chinese Type 64 , and Type 67 .

-fate- · Post by **-fate-** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:28 am

Heres what we had

This is added to show the bolt holdback better.

Stock M9 (see the diffference)

bolt lock and all works with wipers and 147 gr very quiet.

-fate-

badsbsnf81 · Post by **badsbsnf81** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:20 pm

I have seen a Beretta Model 1934 from WWII with an original threaded barrell.

caster · Post by **caster** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:08 pm

I saw a Browning High Power with a stainless silencer, used in 1979 in Angola by a South African 2ndLt, but I have no idea if the combo was privately owned, as Star 9mms were standard issue at the time.
He was just plinking at a range, and the ammo was NATO 115 grain, so there was still a sonic boom, but way reduced from standard.

stengun · Post by **stengun** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:45 pm

Howdy,

I seen/used Hi-Standards, Ruger MK I w/ integral suppressor, Walther PPK/S .380 and a Berreta 93R.

I've never seen one but several of the "Ol' Timers" claimed they used a highly modified S&W Mod. 29 .44 Rem Mag w/ a suppressor.

Paul

TROOPER · Post by **TROOPER** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:29 pm

Stengun - how did that PPK .380 work out for you? Reason I'm asking is, I think a Bersa .380 with its fixed barrel, relatively small diameter bore (comparable to a 9mm instead of a .45), low powder and availability of subsonic ammunition would make this an ideal round and firearm to suppress.

Reliability of cycling (no tilting barrel), smaller suppressor (no Nielsen Device) - Jesus! It really does look like the ideal package. But some folks here have shot down my idea saying that the excessive blowback is a big problem. I've wondered myself if excess spring coils, or a different spring would solve this.

How was your .380 PPK?

Artful · Post by **Artful** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:27 pm

On the blow back 380's you can increase the strength of the hammer and recoil spring and/or put an annular ring or divit in the chamber of the barrel to delay the blowback to help with keeping the slide closed until the pressure has dropped. (like a seacamp pistol)

without modification to the blowback pistol it seemed to me to actually get loader

but putting a stronger spring in helped on my Mak

badsbsnf81 · Post by **badsbsnf81** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:57 am

Maybe they wre referring to the QSPR (Quite Special Purpose Revolver) used in tunnel warfare in Viet Nam?

It was a Model 29, modified by AAI Corp. A smooth bore barrel replaced the factory barrel. It used special amunitionn with a captive pistion to achieve the noise reduction.

The June 2002 issue of Small Arms Review has an article about the QSPR.

Maybe they were thinking of the Ruger GP-100 modified to fire a 30-calibre cartridge that seals the barrel/cylinder gap with an O-ring arrangement? Built by Knight Engineering and called, IIRC, Knight's Revolving Rifle.