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lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:47 pm

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lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:44 am

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joshrunkle35 · Post by **joshrunkle35** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:13 am

Cz makes a bolt action. There's also always the classic sks. Though it appears you may be looking for a 7.62x51 and not a 7.62x39

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:33 am

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yellowfin · Post by **yellowfin** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:08 pm

VZ58 is an outstanding choice that would likely interest you. http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/vz-58-rifles/

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:15 pm

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Dweezil · Post by **Dweezil** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:33 pm

Why? Do you already have an AK and SKS?

kwin201 · Post by **kwin201** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:12 pm

http://www.robarm.com/resources/product ... index.aspx

robarms xcr, not well versed on it but its an option

copenhagen · Post by **copenhagen** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:47 pm

That one on the top is the PWS Diablo in 762x39. It groups the size of a quarter or smaller at 100 yards using Wolf 123gr FMJ. I have found it to be thoroughly enjoyable and highly recommend their upper if you are interested in an SBR project. You get the reliability of the PWS piston system along with the fit/finish/ergonomics of the AR. I look at it as the 'best of both worlds,' if you will:

PTK · Post by **PTK** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:42 am

I normally find just about any machine nice to look at, but goddamn. That is, as far as I can remember, the first AR I've seen that is downright hideous. I'd still love to own one, seems like it really would be the best of both worlds.

MCFLURY · Post by **MCFLURY** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:53 am

robinson arms xcr I have one it works great recently finished off 1000 rounds of wolf black box half suppressed no cleaning and only a few hiccups changing from suppressed to unsuppressed fix buy just changing the gas

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:43 am

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lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:44 am

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lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:02 am

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copenhagen · Post by **copenhagen** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:42 pm

I am using the C-Products Stainless 30 rounders. I got 7 of them last year. They run great.

joshrunkle35 · Post by **joshrunkle35** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:33 pm

lilMAC wrote:
Dweezil wrote:Why? Do you already have an AK and SKS?
I'm not interested in Rifles that shoot Minute of Barn.

They don't. And there are many US made barrels you could swap in if you're concerned. And the ammo isn't exactly the best MOA either.

What is it you want to do with the rifle? What's your plan?

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:19 pm

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joshrunkle35 · Post by **joshrunkle35** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:26 pm

Well the 2"-6" at 100 yards is about the quality of most cheap (wolf, brown bear, etc...) 7.62x39, not necessarily the gun...

IE: It really doesn't matter what you shoot it out of. So an AK or SKS would be cheapest. If you want better accuracy, you'll want to buy better 7.62x39 ammo, which is just as expensive as 7.62x51. And this would be breaking your desire to stay with cheap ammo. In summation: if you use really cheap ammo (like wolf, brown bear, etc...) in an expensive gun you will have nearly the same accuracy as cheap ammo in a cheap gun.

I was curious as to your usage. If it's just because you like the look/feel of battle rifles for "sporting" or "collectible" purposes, then, cool.

But, if you're looking for a serious rifle for SHTF or home defense, I would go an entirely different route.

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:53 pm

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copenhagen · Post by **copenhagen** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:27 pm

Well the 2"-6" at 100 yards is about the quality of most cheap (wolf, brown bear, etc...) 7.62x39, not necessarily the gun...

My 7" Primary Weapons Systems Diablo takes Wolf Performance Ammunition Military Classic Mil-Spec 7.62x39mm 124 Gr. FMJ Non-Corrosive Berdan Primed Steel Case Cartridges and groups them in a quarter at 100 yards repeatedly.

82nd airborne · Post by **82nd airborne** » Sun May 01, 2011 8:13 am

sig 5.56 can be had in 7.62x39, or at least used to be able to.

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Sun May 01, 2011 9:10 am

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lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Sun May 01, 2011 9:22 am

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82nd airborne · Post by **82nd airborne** » Sun May 01, 2011 10:14 am

Sigs handguns are still top notch, except the mosquito, but I personally havent abused one of thier newer rifles enough to tell. Not too fond of their new AR, and I dont like the ergonomics of the 556. It probably wouldnt be noticable if I hadnt spent so much time on the AR platform. After remembering that they have it though, I may buy one in 7.62x39.
Here is something else to consider. Why not just put that much money into an AK, and have an awesome gun then? Ive got an AK with a great trigger, that actually shoots good. It is getting alot of upgrades here shortly.

lilMAC · Post by **lilMAC** » Sun May 01, 2011 11:03 am

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