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rcn11thacr
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by rcn11thacr » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:56 pm
http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/
December 9, 2012
Form 1 and Form 4 Wait Times expected to decrease
ATF hires 9 new examiners. Last week, the NFATCA posted an article that the DOJ lifted the hiring ban for the BATFE (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) and the ATF hired 9 new examiners.
This should significantly speed up the approval process for the purchase or manufacture of firearms restricted by the National Firearms Act. The new staff at the ATF who examine the requests for transfer ( ATF Form 4) and the requests to manufacture (ATF Form 1) should be around 30 which is almost triple the number just a few months ago when expected approval times were in excess of 6 months. We do not know if this will bring times down to 2-3 months but it seems reasonable.
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Sounds like a good thing
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Unobtanium
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by Unobtanium » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:19 pm
They will be ready to go to work next spring.
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ericlw
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by ericlw » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:30 am
yea they still have to be trained and all that.
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by Artful » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:02 am
Gives us time to save up money and pick out our next purchase.
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by kusai » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:00 am
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66427vette
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by 66427vette » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:03 am
Really doubt wait times will drop .
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by twodollarbill » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:10 pm
66427vette wrote:Really doubt wait times will drop .
Government Job Security.....if they did speed up, they would have to lay off those new employees
like they do in the private sector.
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everyusernametaken
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by everyusernametaken » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:45 pm
If wait times did noticeably drop, then I expect the volume would just increase, and we'd be right back to where we are now, if not worse.
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by Broken11B » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:46 pm
The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it? I understand there were fewer forms being submitted but I doubt they had a huge staff a few years ago. What was the examiner to form ratio then, and why, if it's about to become similar, is it unreasonable to think the times may drop? More examiners/staff can't hurt. I'm all for it.
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by OJB4 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:18 pm
Broken11B wrote:The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it? I understand there were fewer forms being submitted but I doubt they had a huge staff a few years ago. What was the examiner to form ratio then, and why, if it's about to become similar, is it unreasonable to think the times may drop? More examiners/staff can't hurt. I'm all for it.
I'm all for it too.....I'm sure the others are all for it as well, but they're still being negative Nancys. We don't have anything to lose by having more examiners as far as I'm concerned. Unless they plan on just looking at all our forms THAT much harder. I'd be some kinda happy if wait times dropped from 6 months to 3 months!!!! I don't think my wife or wallet would be happy though.
I've gotta stop this habit.
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by OJB4 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:20 pm
My luck is they will drop to 3 months or so....since I ordered every can I want already and started the transfer process on all but 2 of them wait times will prolly disappear completely. HAHA (wishful thinking)
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by DarkPhoenix » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:04 pm
3month wait would be awesome!
My TiRant in .45 just took 6 months and 2 weeks...
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by Bendersquint » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:06 pm
Goldman needs to learn how to do math! His numbers are WAY off!
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by armed_zebra » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:13 pm
Broken11B wrote:The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it?
My first form 1 took 81 days from pending to approval.
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by Speed-Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:21 pm
Just preparing for the on-slot of paperwork for the new semi-auto approvals
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by rcn11thacr » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:12 pm
Speed-Racer wrote:Just preparing for the on-slot of paperwork for the new semi-auto approvals
You suck. Dont make me knock on wood...
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by DarkPhoenix » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:15 pm
Speed-Racer wrote:Just preparing for the on-slot of paperwork for the new semi-auto approvals
That would be terrible!
But you never know with NObama
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by Speed-Racer » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:55 pm
rcn11thacr wrote:Speed-Racer wrote:Just preparing for the on-slot of paperwork for the new semi-auto approvals
You suck. Dont make me knock on wood...
Sorry.... I just happen to have a couple of inside sources in D.C.
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by Kramer » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:24 pm
Broken11B wrote:The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it?
From 2004 to 2007 my LLC/Corp Form 1 or 4 transfers were twenty one to twenty seven days door to door. I miss those days.
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by ChimeraPrecision » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:31 pm
Kramer wrote:Broken11B wrote:The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it?
From 2004 to 2007 my LLC/Corp Form 1 or 4 transfers were twenty one to twenty seven days door to door. I miss those days.
That sounds most excellent!
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by Brittsc » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:50 pm
Kramer wrote:Broken11B wrote:The wait time used to be in the 3 month time frame, didn't it?
From 2004 to 2007 my LLC/Corp Form 1 or 4 transfers were twenty one to twenty seven days door to door. I miss those days.
God, I can't imagine. I don't know how I would behave if this were still true. I hope in 5 years we aren't saying "remember when transfers were only 6 months"
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by J Krammes » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:34 pm
Speed-Racer wrote:rcn11thacr wrote:Speed-Racer wrote:Just preparing for the on-slot of paperwork for the new semi-auto approvals
You suck. Dont make me knock on wood...
Sorry.... I just happen to have a couple of inside sources in D.C.
So when do you think they will try this?
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by syfr » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:46 pm
Now 3 months for 5 minutes worth of work.
Progress, goobermint style.
