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Dorner Manifesto
Add another registered Class III weapon used in a crime... Link to Full Manifesto http://www.examiner.com/article/full-ch ... anifesto-2
"The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don't give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That's bull**** because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn't even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to "add to cart". All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL's. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR's, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I'm not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a ****ing silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. "Gun control is no longer debatable, it's not a conversation, its a moral mandate."
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche' and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre."
"The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don't give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That's bull**** because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn't even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to "add to cart". All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL's. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR's, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I'm not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a ****ing silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. "Gun control is no longer debatable, it's not a conversation, its a moral mandate."
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche' and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre."
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I'm guessing this is what you're talking about ?
http://www.10news.com/news/investigatio ... ll02072013
http://www.10news.com/news/investigatio ... ll02072013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
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yupdoubloon wrote:I'm guessing this is what you're talking about ?
http://www.10news.com/news/investigatio ... ll02072013
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Well F--k me solid! F--k
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Talk about an inside job to F--k with our rights on both fronts NFA and AW ban......F--k is right Fireman,
I am sure they are stolen or.....but he is still breaking the law taking those items into California. The media will not tell this in the right light, but will show how easy it is to get a suppressor and SBR. Everyone knows it is not easy at all. Its the toughest background check I have ever done and i used to work for the USDA.
I am sure they are stolen or.....but he is still breaking the law taking those items into California. The media will not tell this in the right light, but will show how easy it is to get a suppressor and SBR. Everyone knows it is not easy at all. Its the toughest background check I have ever done and i used to work for the USDA.
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How many more liberal, CNN watching, psycho's are we gonna let kill innocents before we ban Piers Morgan.
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What can you believe on the internet these days? Here's a link to a copy of the manifesto that I've seen.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christo ... manifesto/ All sources are from Commifornia, so should be taken with a grain of salt.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christo ... manifesto/ All sources are from Commifornia, so should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Laxguy. Where did you find that text?
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I will say this, that's interestingly specific.AAC Suppressors (silencers)
Another thing, I'm suspecting he doesn't currently own silencers. If he did he would know there IS a NICS check for them and a 4473. Perhaps he is either forgetting that, or lying intentionally, or he has no idea what he's talking about.
I have to say though, this isn't a F--k us movement. It's just as much or more F--k them. Here you have the POSTER CHILD for exactly why citizens need the same arms cops do, the reason there should be no police exemption. A black democratic ex-Navy ex-Cop against civilians armament who goes nuts and starts murdering people, it's the complete opposite of the person the media loves to highlight. Then you have the cops involved in so far shooting three innocent people in trucks that look pretty much nothing like the suspect vehicle, is anyone going to argue those people should have guns and the citizen should not?
Yes, that part about SBRs, cans, and his guns is very specific. But it also makes no sense and was most likely illegal for him to own. He goes out to say he owns these things but shouldn't be able to. Why would he want/own them then? I think the manifesto is largely going to be ignored.
However.... If he does own cans, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. If there is a gun right to come the imagery could be bad.
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And once again mental illness is causing problems for us. Clearly, if you think killing cops is a good way to convince people of the need for an awb, you are delusional.
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From the rant, we know he's insane, but to blame an inanimate machine for killings is without any semblance of rational thought. We don't blame Toyota or GM for car accidents where someone is killed. We don't blame the manufacturers of surgeon instruments for the death of people who die on the operating table.The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time...and those are pretty good odds.
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I agree with what you're saying, but perhaps you forget the Ford Explorer (Exploder) roll over incidents that Firestone Tire paid dearly for. This is the reason every new car in the US has a wireless tire pressure monitor sensor on each wheel.johndoe3 wrote:We don't blame Toyota or GM for car accidents where someone is killed. We don't blame the manufacturers of surgeon instruments for the death of people who die on the operating table.
I wouldn't spend too much time trying to apply logic to this guy. He's gone way off the deep end. This won't lead to more restrictions or "proof" of the need for an assault weapon ban, they're going to hush on that because it doesn't fit the narrative. This is like the KKK being on your side, attention you don't want.
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Yeah LAXguy I don't think that's correct.Vultite wrote:What can you believe on the internet these days? Here's a link to a copy of the manifesto that I've seen.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christo ... manifesto/ All sources are from Commifornia, so should be taken with a grain of salt.
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-comm ... 213161.pdf
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I can't believe the LAPD shot innocent people. WTF! I mean I can believe it but still...I think if I survived the first thing I would buy with my lawsuit money is a brand new Ferrari 458Italia with custom plate "thxPD"
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Copied from pg.10. Wow.....
Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
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My luck is not good enough to be mistakenly shot by policeFireman1291 wrote:I can't believe the LAPD shot innocent people. WTF! I mean I can believe it but still...I think if I survived the first thing I would buy with my lawsuit money is a brand new Ferrari 458Italia with custom plate "thxPD"
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Wait, so where did all that stuff about Obama, Silencers, AWB come from?lafsnguy wrote:Yeah LAXguy I don't think that's correct.Vultite wrote:What can you believe on the internet these days? Here's a link to a copy of the manifesto that I've seen.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christo ... manifesto/ All sources are from Commifornia, so should be taken with a grain of salt.
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-comm ... 213161.pdf
Edit: WARNING either the part about AWB, Silencers/AAC, etc was removed from the above link or it has been added in other links. Either way, that's fucking shady of someone.
Edit2: That above link might not be edited, but it is definitely not complete, seems to end short.
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I keep hearing people say that the big outlets are redacting portions. Part of this rings true to me as TMZ published portions where he chose to write to specific celebrities and nowhere else have I read that.
Here's the article with it linked up to it.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/0 ... -revealed/
Apparently GAWKER has the full unedited manifesto
Here's the article with it linked up to it.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/0 ... -revealed/
Apparently GAWKER has the full unedited manifesto
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This is disturbing. Did he or did he not write about trusts and silencers and SBRs?
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I'm fairly certain he did write the parts praising liberal celebrities and condemning conservatives, but no one is really tlaking about the NFA stuff.L1A1Rocker wrote:This is disturbing. Did he or did he not write about trusts and silencers and SBRs?
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The "shark week" version is sourced from anonymous. The short version is sourced from CNN. About equal in terms of being reliable sources of news.
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This is like a freaking bad dream!! I can't believe this is happening.
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