free online gun trust template
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Re: free online gun trust template
This looks very well done. Is this spefically for Ohio or just Guaranteed to be valid for Ohio because that is the state listed in the trust? I happen to be in Ohio so this seems like a very good option!! Thanks alot for posting this, Lookin forward to seeing what others think.
So you guys want the only thing keeping you from unlawful possession of an NFA item to be a trust you found on the internet? Ok, sure.
The true test of its validity isn't whether ATF accepts it, but whether it holds up to legal scrutiny when an aggressive prosecutor challenges it. Heck, even ATF could start scrutinizing them if they just wanted to reduce the number of transferables in circulation. You could get lucky and they might even offer not to prosecute if you just forfeit whatever you thought the trust owned. But the money you're saving won't even pay for a retainer.
Having a qualified lawyer write it up is basically prosecution insurance for unlawful possession. Imagine all the money you could save by not having car insurance, or health insurance. Until you need that insurance, then it gets really expensive.
Good luck with that.
The true test of its validity isn't whether ATF accepts it, but whether it holds up to legal scrutiny when an aggressive prosecutor challenges it. Heck, even ATF could start scrutinizing them if they just wanted to reduce the number of transferables in circulation. You could get lucky and they might even offer not to prosecute if you just forfeit whatever you thought the trust owned. But the money you're saving won't even pay for a retainer.
Having a qualified lawyer write it up is basically prosecution insurance for unlawful possession. Imagine all the money you could save by not having car insurance, or health insurance. Until you need that insurance, then it gets really expensive.
Good luck with that.
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That is a direct rip-off of David Goldman's basic gun trust. The OP's trust nonetheless. His co-trustees are still listed.
There's no personal identification/copyright marks on every page like there should be.
If you want to be legally pursued by the most well known NFA trust lawyer in the country, go right ahead and use it.
OP should be banned btw.
There's no personal identification/copyright marks on every page like there should be.
If you want to be legally pursued by the most well known NFA trust lawyer in the country, go right ahead and use it.
OP should be banned btw.
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Who's David Goldman?
I Was hoping that this would be a template that was put together by an NFA Lawyer. Too bad...
I Was hoping that this would be a template that was put together by an NFA Lawyer. Too bad...
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hyrulejedi86 wrote:Who's David Goldman?
I Was hoping that this would be a template that was put together by an NFA Lawyer. Too bad...
http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/
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I'm guessing the names are fake. Clark Kent probably doesn't need an NFA trust.rimshaker wrote:That is a direct rip-off of David Goldman's basic gun trust. The OP's trust nonetheless. His co-trustees are still listed.
Just pony up the few hundred dollars to buy a trust or set up an LLC. If you can't afford that, then how can you afford the NFA items to put in the trust?hyrulejedi86 wrote:Who's David Goldman?
I Was hoping that this would be a template that was put together by an NFA Lawyer. Too bad...
If you're determined to use something "free" from the internet, ATF will happily accept invalid trusts all day long. But if it's ever challenged and is the only thing keeping you from an unlawful possession charge, there's a nonzero possibility it'll be worth exactly what you paid for it.
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THis... I am guessing MR Goldman will be going after this guy full tilt..rimshaker wrote:That is a direct rip-off of David Goldman's basic gun trust. The OP's trust nonetheless. His co-trustees are still listed.
There's no personal identification/copyright marks on every page like there should be.
If you want to be legally pursued by the most well known NFA trust lawyer in the country, go right ahead and use it.
OP should be banned btw.
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This is a copyrighted trust. Who ever posted this file on the rapid link has removed my copyright notices from the trust. While I appreciate your complements on the trust, using it would be a violation of the copyright law. If you have downloaded it. I would be happy to offer you a low cost license to create a licensed version just contact me.
David Goldman
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David Goldman
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[url=http://www.GunTrustLawyer.com]Information on various state issues with NFA Gun Trusts[/url] -
3733 University Blvd W. Suite 212B, Jacksonville, FL 32217, 904-685-1200
David Goldman, Attorney
[url=http://www.GunTrustLawyer.com]Information on various state issues with NFA Gun Trusts[/url] -
3733 University Blvd W. Suite 212B, Jacksonville, FL 32217, 904-685-1200
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I removed the original post. I was going to delete the entire thread, but I will leave it so that people have a source for a lawyer who can do this.
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Bravo. A class act, Sir.dmgwork wrote:This is a copyrighted trust. Who ever posted this file on the rapid link has removed my copyright notices from the trust. While I appreciate your complements on the trust, using it would be a violation of the copyright law. If you have downloaded it. I would be happy to offer you a low cost license to create a licensed version just contact me.
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Bump for David Goldman. My trust came from him, its well written, it got all the legal tidbits only a lawyer would think of. David himself is a class act, he responds promptly to messages/calls, and was very willing to accommodate my particular needs. Granted, I have yet to have a need to put the trust to the legal test but it’s much better than anything else on the web I found. I would recommend him to anyone in need of a gun trust.
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Here is someone on silencer forum listing a trust for free. I wonder if it's the same guy.
http://www.silencerforum.com/forum/show ... ate-online
http://www.silencerforum.com/forum/show ... ate-online
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same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
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pinching pennies and cheaping out on an instrument designed to keep you out of federal prison.
yeah, seems like a really good idea.
yeah, seems like a really good idea.
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Umm what he posted was actually one of the more expensive of the gun trust lawyers out there it was just stolen.bani wrote:pinching pennies and cheaping out on an instrument designed to keep you out of federal prison.
yeah, seems like a really good idea.
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I dealt with it in silencer forum
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