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No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdown

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:35 am
by este
Just to save anyone from calling. While there are people in the building, there is REPORTEDLY no work being done on forms, and the phone operators for the branch are instructed to not give statuses.

I'm 2 weeks or so away from two new form4s.... FML.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:41 am
by 74-900
I called just to see myself. That's the answer I got. We can't do status dew to sequester. My question is, why are out tax dollars paying the dead beats to be there and answer the phone but not do there jobs!

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:38 pm
by rimshaker
Geezuz. Right smack in the middle of the 90-day comment period. Perfect timing for the current NFA rush. Can morale sink any lower......

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:00 pm
by Bendersquint
74-900 wrote:I called just to see myself. That's the answer I got. We can't do status dew to sequester. My question is, why are out tax dollars paying the dead bets to be there and answer the phone but not do there jobs!
The people that answer the phones are not the same people that do the approvals and the forms, they are hired specifically to answer the phones and deal with applicants.

Dead beats???? Really?

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:29 pm
by 57fairlane
I don't know what you guys are complaining about, my stamp came today :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:09 pm
by wacki
rimshaker wrote:Geezuz. Right smack in the middle of the 90-day comment period. Perfect timing for the current NFA rush. Can morale sink any lower......

And I have 90+% of my stamps processing right now. :-(

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:20 pm
by Casper
57fairlane wrote:I don't know what you guys are complaining about, my stamp came today :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:11 pm
by tsands974
It's a good thing I like waiting

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:37 pm
by Tony M.
Yeah, this sucks. I was supposed to be a week from approval on two stamps.

Oh well. Patience is a virtue, or so they tell me. I guess I wasn't virtuous enough.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:49 pm
by wacki
Tony M. wrote:Yeah, this sucks. I was supposed to be a week from approval on two stamps.

Oh well. Patience is a virtue, or so they tell me. I guess I wasn't virtuous enough.
My Liberty Mystic and SilencerCo Osprey were supposed to be approved 48 hours from now.

Not happy.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:26 pm
by RJT
tsands974 wrote:It's a good thing I like waiting

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm going to learn to like it..........maybe

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:45 pm
by bklyn_irish
I got four Form 4s back last week...good timing.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:11 am
by Baffled
The answer is simple... rather than funneling each $200 check into the gaping, galaxy-sucking black hole that is the general fund - certain people NEEDS their Obama phone, ya know - have that money run the forms and database process directly.

They could have Harvard MBA's processing the forms and still make a tidy profit.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:09 am
by KSmoker
Tony M. wrote:Yeah, this sucks. I was supposed to be a week from approval on two stamps.
Same here... Should have been approved this week or next. Wonder if the Fed. Govt. is still collecting taxes for these shutdown days since no services are being provided :lol:

(except military, no disrespect).

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:31 am
by wacki
Any bets on how long the shutdown will last?

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:54 am
by WarbirdsCustomGuns
wacki wrote:Any bets on how long the shutdown will last?
2-4 weeks.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:40 pm
by Baffled
Certain Govt functions are moving along. I had an appointment today for the "global traveler" program - let's you bypass & zoom through U.S. customs and immigration.

The waiting list for an appointment is 3 months in most places. And it costs $100. A bit like the NFA process... slow, inefficient, expensive.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:52 pm
by 74-900
Bendersquint wrote:
74-900 wrote:I called just to see myself. That's the answer I got. We can't do status dew to sequester. My question is, why are out tax dollars paying the dead bets to be there and answer the phone but not do there jobs!
The people that answer the phones are not the same people that do the approvals and the forms, they are hired specifically to answer the phones and deal with applicants.

Dead beats???? Really?
I'm very much aware these people answering the phones do not do the approvals. But they can give status updates, that was my reason for calling. "REALLY" DEAD BEATS!!! They are seating at there computers, she made it clear she could not enter my info. for any updates.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:42 pm
by Bendersquint
74-900 wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
74-900 wrote:I called just to see myself. That's the answer I got. We can't do status dew to sequester. My question is, why are out tax dollars paying the dead bets to be there and answer the phone but not do there jobs!
The people that answer the phones are not the same people that do the approvals and the forms, they are hired specifically to answer the phones and deal with applicants.

Dead beats???? Really?
I'm very much aware these people answering the phones do not do the approvals. But they can give status updates, that was my reason for calling. "REALLY" DEAD BEATS!!! They are seating at there computers, she made it clear she could not enter my info. for any updates.
Perhaps the NFRTR database is shut down right now, during the last furlough other agencies were instructed to power down their systems. If you can't access a database because it is offline then you can't give status updates.

I tried calling and they told me the system was offline and they were instructed to answer phones and forward to voicemals only.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:06 pm
by Loki_stormbringer
Bendersquint wrote:
Perhaps the NFRTR database is shut down right now, during the last furlough other agencies were instructed to power down their systems. If you can't access a database because it is offline then you can't give status updates.

I tried calling and they told me the system was offline and they were instructed to answer phones and forward to voicemals only.

I believe this is the issue here. Most servers / computers have been powered down because they can't pay for the operating expenses. Check around to government websites. They are shutdown for the most part. Not all but most.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:24 am
by M-60
My dealer got 2 stamps for me in today. I'm not sure when they went out.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:59 am
by Bendersquint
M-60 wrote:My dealer got 2 stamps for me in today. I'm not sure when they went out.
Mail to OR takes a couple days so I am willing to bet it wasn't sent out since the furlough started. ;)

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:08 am
by continuity
74-900 wrote:I called just to see myself. That's the answer I got. We can't do status dew to sequester. My question is, why are out tax dollars paying the dead beats to be there and answer the phone but not do there jobs!
Relax on the dead beat thing. The people answering the phones didn't get up this morning waiting for your call, just to make sure they could bum you out.

It is what it is. The voice on the other end of your call to the NFA has a level of frustration also, not nearly as festering as your's, but just the same, they are trying to keep cool while dealing with YOU, and the systems they are constrained to.

Relax.

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:03 am
by doubloon
WarbirdsCustomGuns wrote:
wacki wrote:Any bets on how long the shutdown will last?
2-4 weeks.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: No application processing, no statuses, NFA / Gov shutdo

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:12 pm
by Tony M.
Tony M. wrote:Yeah, this sucks. I was supposed to be a week from approval on two stamps.

Oh well. Patience is a virtue, or so they tell me. I guess I wasn't virtuous enough.
Well, I guess I was virtuous enough after all. I got a call from my dealer today, and it looks like they mailed my 2 stamps the day before they shut down.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

For some reason, knowing the other stamps that are still months away will be delayed longer doesn't bother me as much as the idea that these were gonna be delayed so close to approval did.