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Just send the form with Obama 2012 sticker on envelope and include a letter from your state's Democratic Party saying you are great; and then they will sign off in 4-6 months.
If you use a Christmas or Chanuka stamp, your app will probably get "lost" in the mail. Maybe even the Agency's internal mail. They'll cash your check, just lose the app and require a new filing from Step 1!
God help you if you are Republican!!! Get ready for an IRS colonoscopy.
If you use a Christmas or Chanuka stamp, your app will probably get "lost" in the mail. Maybe even the Agency's internal mail. They'll cash your check, just lose the app and require a new filing from Step 1!
God help you if you are Republican!!! Get ready for an IRS colonoscopy.
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That's good stuff!!
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any news from batf yet on any rule changes?
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If ATF is going to even try to look like they're following the rules, there should be nothing from them for quite some time--months at least. They're required to consider and respond to comments on their proposal before publishing a final rule, and even if they disregard all the comments and adopt the rule as proposed it will take quite some time to address the comments.
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Not quite months, it could be as soon as a couple weeks at the soonest and a month or 2 means they are dragging their feet.danb35 wrote:If ATF is going to even try to look like they're following the rules, there should be nothing from them for quite some time--months at least. They're required to consider and respond to comments on their proposal before publishing a final rule, and even if they disregard all the comments and adopt the rule as proposed it will take quite some time to address the comments.
They are only required to read and consider, they don't have to address any of the comments(I have been on that side of a proposal before and just gotta read a selection not even all of the comments).
It will take a day or 2 to weed out the duplicate comments, I found one comment that had been duplicated 894 times, that will reduce the reading a bit for the contractors.
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
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That dumb s**t has so much going on right now, that he has probably forgotten about it.Bendersquint wrote:
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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He has less going on now than when this was brought into action.RJT wrote:That dumb s**t has so much going on right now, that he has probably forgotten about it.Bendersquint wrote:
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
He has a dedicated briefing time for gun control related issues on his agenda, i doubt he sleeps through it.
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Read this and tell me if this is the kind of guy that forgets about gun control. It's been a life long dream for him:RJT wrote:That dumb s**t has so much going on right now, that he has probably forgotten about it.Bendersquint wrote:
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-a ... amendment/
I wish I saved all the documents that were linked to. It's one hell of a story / detective work.
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Link? Proof? how often?Bendersquint wrote: He has a dedicated briefing time for gun control related issues on his agenda, i doubt he sleeps through it.
I'm actually surprised to hear this given the supposedly lack of briefing around the healthcare website. A project that will forever define him.....
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Like living it up at the Mandela send off ...RJT wrote:That dumb s**t has so much going on right now, that he has probably forgotten about it.Bendersquint wrote:
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
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Is it me or does someone look jealous?
Marylin voice: "Happy Birthday Mister President"
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Marylin voice: "Happy Birthday Mister President"
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Here's more pics to the above.....mrs president actually moved in between them.....she was none to pleased.....
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Hells yes!!! What dat fool doin touchin aw over dat fine ass white gurl?wacki wrote:Is it me or does someone look jealous?
Marylin voice: "Happy Birthday Mister President"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4SLSlSmW74
Michelle doesn't even let Obama have alone time w Oprah. You KNOW that Head of State meetings in Europe are just like 'Eyes Wide Shut.'
Let's be honest, if Obama nailed the Danish PM his ratings would go through the roof. Even Congress would be jealous.
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Let's all not forget that Mandela was sent to Prison for possessing with intent to maim and kill, over 48,000 Soviet-made Landmines and I don't recall how many thousands handgrenades.
His wife Winnie was infamous for placing auto tires around peoples' necks, filling them w gasoline, and then setting them on fire. This was known as "necklacing."
"If I was going to commit genocide and then pretend to be a man of peace, this is how I would do it." says Obama.
His wife Winnie was infamous for placing auto tires around peoples' necks, filling them w gasoline, and then setting them on fire. This was known as "necklacing."
"If I was going to commit genocide and then pretend to be a man of peace, this is how I would do it." says Obama.
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The proposed rules have some known flaws or gaps in them (e.g., how to handle a change in responsible persons after approval/transfer). The notice even asked for suggestions of how this should be handled. The comments have pointed out several other flaws that make them unworkable as proposed. To enact them as-is is just inviting a successful challenge. If they want to go this direction, but fix these issues first, it would seem they would have to republish the new proposal for another comment period.Bendersquint wrote:Not quite months, it could be as soon as a couple weeks at the soonest and a month or 2 means they are dragging their feet.danb35 wrote:If ATF is going to even try to look like they're following the rules, there should be nothing from them for quite some time--months at least. They're required to consider and respond to comments on their proposal before publishing a final rule, and even if they disregard all the comments and adopt the rule as proposed it will take quite some time to address the comments.
They are only required to read and consider, they don't have to address any of the comments(I have been on that side of a proposal before and just gotta read a selection not even all of the comments).
It will take a day or 2 to weed out the duplicate comments, I found one comment that had been duplicated 894 times, that will reduce the reading a bit for the contractors.
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
It would also be easy for them to do nothing for quite some time, as they have for several years after expressing an intent to "fix" the trust "problem."
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wacki wrote:Read this and tell me if this is the kind of guy that forgets about gun control. It's been a life long dream for him:RJT wrote:That dumb s**t has so much going on right now, that he has probably forgotten about it.Bendersquint wrote:
How fast it goes into affect is determined about the person in the oval office pushing this along.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-a ... amendment/
I wish I saved all the documents that were linked to. It's one hell of a story / detective work.
While the trust "loophole" is gun control, I would bet it hardly rates the amount of attention an outright ban gets from them. That's all I meant.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Agreed, there are many flaws in it and they know it, I can see another proposal being presented for another round of commenting.Armorer-at-Law wrote: The proposed rules have some known flaws or gaps in them (e.g., how to handle a change in responsible persons after approval/transfer). The notice even asked for suggestions of how this should be handled. The comments have pointed out several other flaws that make them unworkable as proposed. To enact them as-is is just inviting a successful challenge. If they want to go this direction, but fix these issues first, it would seem they would have to republish the new proposal for another comment period.
It would also be easy for them to do nothing for quite some time, as they have for several years after expressing an intent to "fix" the trust "problem."
If they just push it through they are looking at more lawsuits than they will be if anything is done with this.
Alot wil depend on the person in the oval office, if he thinks the scare he gave is enough for this time then it may rest if he is deadset on making our lives more miserable then expect a round 2 pretty quick.
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I figure it gets put in place 1 year after Sandy Hook.... with ceremony....
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that wouldnt surprise mepaper9 wrote:I figure it gets put in place 1 year after Sandy Hook.... with ceremony....
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Would not give us long to wait ... only until Saturday 12/14.
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http://www.myguntrust.com/are-nfa-gun-t ... nated.htmlThe ATF estimates that the final rule will be published some time in June 2014.
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Article dated last month!
I sure hope it was dated wrong, or they are really good at predicting things!
I sure hope it was dated wrong, or they are really good at predicting things!
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Just a data point skimmed from the interwebs.
Easily as accurate as most statistics.
Easily as accurate as most statistics.
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it should be CLEO notification, not signoff.
CLEO has 30 days to file an objection with supporting documentation why the applicant is prohibited by (state/federal) law from posessing an NFA item.
CLEO has 30 days to file an objection with supporting documentation why the applicant is prohibited by (state/federal) law from posessing an NFA item.