Question about .22 Can

[rem_pss308]

Im going to be in the market for a .22 can soon. I want one that has very little or none first round pop, and is quiet on a rifle and a Pistol. Weight, Material, and length is not a real factor.

Im not worried of cost. ( buy once, cry once) lmao

I have a form one .22 can already, but its 10" long x 1" with freeze plugs. and it has no first round pop, and is very quiet on both rifle and pistol. On the bolt action. mainly just here firing pin hit.


Is there any cans that meet my specs?

[JasonM]

Im going to be in the market for a .22 can soon. I want one that has very little or none first round pop, and is quiet on a rifle and a Pistol. Weight, Material, and length is not a real factor.

Im not worried of cost. ( buy once, cry once) lmao

I have a form one .22 can already, but its 10" long x 1" with freeze plugs. and it has no first round pop, and is very quiet on both rifle and pistol. On the bolt action. mainly just here firing pin hit.


Is there any cans that meet my specs?

Silencerco Spectre II or AAC Element2

[black-sheep]

Silencerco Spectre II,AAC Element2or liberty essence

Just my $.02

[bani]

Im going to be in the market for a .22 can soon. I want one that has very little or none first round pop, and is quiet on a rifle and a Pistol. Weight, Material, and length is not a real factor.

Im not worried of cost. ( buy once, cry once) lmao

I have a form one .22 can already, but its 10" long x 1" with freeze plugs. and it has no first round pop, and is very quiet on both rifle and pistol. On the bolt action. mainly just here firing pin hit.


Is there any cans that meet my specs?

AAC Element 2 is what you want. zero first round pop, extremely quiet on rifle and pistol.

[rem_pss308]

thanks for responses. looks like the element 2 wins. Hope yall right for the price. LOL

[laxguy59]

why discount the Spectre II? At 1:41 in the video you can see that no FRP existed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_xsaJ-iyM

[rem_pss308]

Same db reduction. Element 2 is shorter and lighter. Yes 200.00 more but its an investment.

[samson7x]

Im going to be in the market for a .22 can soon. I want one that has very little or none first round pop, and is quiet on a rifle and a Pistol. Weight, Material, and length is not a real factor.

Im not worried of cost. ( buy once, cry once) lmao

I have a form one .22 can already, but its 10" long x 1" with freeze plugs. and it has no first round pop, and is very quiet on both rifle and pistol. On the bolt action. mainly just here firing pin hit.


Is there any cans that meet my specs?

You said weight and length aren't factors?

Spectre II would be my choice.

[Buzduk]

All three cans mentioned are spectacular. The element and essence are more costly and of those two I would take the essence(it's clear where the extra expense is MATERIAL!). For the price the SpectreII is tough to beat!

[rem_pss308]

Length and weight are Low factors. but if both have no FRP and both are very quiet (same DB) then shorter and lighter can be factors.

Still considering both. have to see what is available here in Florida.

[rem_pss308]

liberty essence: what about first round pop? I sen how quiet it was. but is it as quiet and the other two?

[bani]

liberty essence: what about first round pop? I sen how quiet it was. but is it as quiet and the other two?

i have my doubts the monocore essence is quieter than the k baffle element 2.

[black-sheep]

Anybody in or around vegas have an element2?
I would be glad to have a shoot out. I am curious myself.

[Emilio]

I have a element and liberty TL , the TL is more quiet on rifle and less blowback but bigger/ more volume, the Element is a great pistol can and best for short and light on pistol. The TL sound about as good on pistol.

The SWR Spectre II is a great can and I would buy it if needing another! It's the easiest to clean (tube stays clean) also best price and great service and looking at tests most quit on pistol.

You won't " cry " with any new SWR, any 3 is good but 22 cans get dirty fast so think cleaning too.

[rimshaker]

All modern quality 22LR cans meter well below 120db. So performance-wise, it's like splitting hairs.

Focus instead on what 22LR is famous for and is unavoidable...dirty, heavy lead buildup! Ease of cleaning should be #1 priority IMO.

Sparrow and Spectre II are both stainless, but Spectre breaks down into 11 pieces with a tool, while Sparrow breaks down into just 5 pieces with no tools.

No FRP on rifles with the Sparrow, but it happens on pistols. But depending on your particular pistol, sometimes there's no FRP or is just negligible.

I vote Sparrow. It's also the shortest 22 can on the market, just 5.08"

[Historian]

All modern quality 22LR cans meter well below 120db. So performance-wise, it's like splitting hairs.

Focus instead on what 22LR is famous for and is unavoidable...dirty, heavy lead buildup! Ease of cleaning should be #1 priority IMO.

Sparrow and Spectre II are both stainless, but Spectre breaks down into 11 pieces with a tool, while Sparrow breaks down into just 5 pieces with no tools.

No FRP on rifles with the Sparrow, but it happens on pistols. But depending on your particular pistol, sometimes there's no FRP or is just negligible.

I vote Sparrow. It's also the shortest 22 can on the market, just 5.08"

Without a meter it is anecdotal but it has been said that varying the twist of the barrel
has been perceived to correlate with a varying of FRP on a .22 pistol.

A not often mentioned third order parameter that might be considered for an actual test.

[Abiqua]

The FRP with the Sparrow on a pistol can easily be avoided with a quick spritz of water from a nasal spray bottle.

[whiterussian1974]

Historian: What twist would help? Most barrels are 1:16. I saw one for 1:9 specially made for 60gr Aguilla. I don't know if it would overstabilize a Winchester M22 40gr @ 1255fps?

The FRP with the Sparrow on a pistol can easily be avoided with a quick spritz of water from a nasal spray bottle.

Great idea! I don't know why so many posters are against lithium grease in centerfire blast chambers. It's the only way that I have ever shot.
I never even considered rust being a problem from combustion byproducts until I read about it in a thread yesterday. Grease would seem to be of obvious assistance w that too.
I've also used a straw to place distilled water along the baffle stack after several shots have heated the can and softened/evaporated much of the grease. (I only add grease when I can run a jag down the bore to make sure of no strikes.)

[kassenz]

Spit.

[MJF1911]

Same db reduction. Element 2 is shorter and lighter. Yes 200.00 more but its an investment.

The real consideration between the two is ease of cleaning, and the Spectre II wins hands down.

[rimshaker]

Spit.

[Emilio]

Historian: What twist would help? Most barrels are 1:16. I saw one for 1:9 specially made for 60gr Aguilla. I don't know if it would overstabilize a Winchester M22 40gr @ 1255fps?

The FRP with the Sparrow on a pistol can easily be avoided with a quick spritz of water from a nasal spray bottle.

Great idea!

Old idea, as old as the sparrow.

I don't know why so many posters are against lithium grease in centerfire blast chambers. It's the only way that I have ever shot.
I never even considered rust being a problem from combustion byproducts until I read about it in a thread yesterday. Grease would seem to be of obvious assistance w that too.
I've also used a straw to place distilled water along the baffle stack after several shots have heated the can and softened/evaporated much of the grease. (I only add grease when I can run a jag down the bore to make sure of no strikes.)

Because its a mess and no need on the good new cans.

[Emilio]

All modern quality 22LR cans meter well below 120db. So performance-wise, it's like splitting hairs.

Focus instead on what 22LR is famous for and is unavoidable...dirty, heavy lead buildup! Ease of cleaning should be #1 priority IMO.

Sparrow and Spectre II are both stainless, but Spectre breaks down into 11 pieces with a tool, while Sparrow breaks down into just 5 pieces with no tools.

No FRP on rifles with the Sparrow, but it happens on pistols. But depending on your particular pistol, sometimes there's no FRP or is just negligible.

I vote Sparrow. It's also the shortest 22 can on the market, just 5.08"

Less pieces don't mean easier to clean, with the Spectre you have no half shells or gap residue and the pieces sonic and water tumble easier.

The sparrow sounds better on rifle but the Specter better on pistol so something for him to think about. Most anything on rifle sound "ok" but then blow back comes into play fouling semi rifle mags and this is where the liberty shines and no FRP.

I remember Major malfunctions side kick ( moderator) blaming Ruger 10/22 X mags for being " junk" when doing a sparrow report and we all know how good those mags are.

So things to consider but yes cleaning is huge and SS cores huge when buying 22 cans. How many seconds to take one apart not so huge if you factor other needs.

[whiterussian1974]

I don't know why so many posters are against lithium grease in centerfire blast chambers. It's the only way that I have ever shot.
I never even considered rust being a problem from combustion byproducts until I read about it in a thread yesterday. Grease would seem to be of obvious assistance w that too.
I've also used a straw to place distilled water along the baffle stack after several shots have heated the can and softened/evaporated much of the grease. (I only add grease when I can run a jag down the bore to make sure of no strikes.)

Because its a mess and no need on the good new cans.

I'm about to be serious, not sarcastic.
Not needed doesn't = best. I use Li grease to lube my car's undercarriage. Strictly speaking, not needed, but far better than w/o.
I guess I am just always looking to improve performance, rather than settling for good enough.

[cmichael]

All modern quality 22LR cans meter well below 120db. So performance-wise, it's like splitting hairs.

Focus instead on what 22LR is famous for and is unavoidable...dirty, heavy lead buildup! Ease of cleaning should be #1 priority IMO.

Sparrow and Spectre II are both stainless, but Spectre breaks down into 11 pieces with a tool, while Sparrow breaks down into just 5 pieces with no tools.

No FRP on rifles with the Sparrow, but it happens on pistols. But depending on your particular pistol, sometimes there's no FRP or is just negligible.

I vote Sparrow. It's also the shortest 22 can on the market, just 5.08"

Less pieces don't mean easier to clean, with the Spectre you have no half shells or gap residue and the pieces sonic and water tumble easier.

The sparrow sounds better on rifle but the Specter better on pistol so something for him to think about. Most anything on rifle sound "ok" but then blow back comes into play fouling semi rifle mags and this is where the liberty shines and no FRP.

I remember Major malfunctions side kick ( moderator) blaming Ruger 10/22 X mags for being " junk" when doing a sparrow report and we all know how good those mags are.

So things to consider but yes cleaning is huge and SS cores huge when buying 22 cans. How many seconds to take one apart not so huge if you factor other needs.

Well said, I like my SS Sparrow, and Love my Spectre II. It build like a tank. Most important is servicebility and warrenty. If I have only one choice, It will be Spectre II.