762 Saker on SilCo website

[Abiqua]

http://www.silencerco.com/saker

[samson7x]

http://youtu.be/6P0q7txXpeA

[John4045]

That's just pure sexiness.

[eastern_hunter]

... chuckle ...

Figures ... I have a 5.56 Saker and a 7.62 Specwar on transfer to the dealer now. Would probably have done a Saker in each caliber.

Would have delayed the progress of events by a month, delay to manufacture, and transfer to the distributor.

Oh well ... sigh ...

[Bendersquint]

... chuckle ...

Figures ... I have a 5.56 Saker and a 7.62 Specwar on transfer to the dealer now. Would probably have done a Saker in each caliber.

Would have delayed the progress of events by a month, delay to manufacture, and transfer to the distributor.

Oh well ... sigh ...

You would never end up with a product then because as soon as that one started the process the next thing would be released.

Repeat cycle.

[eastern_hunter]

Was able to wait for the Octane 45 after getting an Octane 9.

Would have waited until the 7.62 Saker was available had it not been for the potential change in the rules for Trusts. Sheriff won't sign.

Win some ... draw some ... lose some.

[wacki]

Will a short / compact one ever come out? SDN6 style?

[Tango2249]

Will a short / compact one ever come out? SDN6 style?

Like anyone knows the answer to that...

[wacki]

Will a short / compact one ever come out? SDN6 style?

Like anyone knows the answer to that...

Word around the street is that silencerco occasionally posts here.

Also, Gary told me about the 7.62 saker 6 months ago. So yes, I expect somebody that reads this board might actually know and be able to talk.

[Henry Graham]

Will a short / compact one ever come out? SDN6 style?

The Saker 7.62 is 7.5" in length. So about 1/8" shorter than the SDN6.

[John4045]

Henry,

Any idea how long before the 51T mounts become available for the Saker 7.62?

Thanks

[Henry Graham]

Henry,

Any idea how long before the 51T mounts become available for the Saker 7.62?

Thanks

51 tooth mounts are shipping now. The Saker 7.62 uses the same MAAD mounts as the Saker 5.56.

[wacki]

Will a short / compact one ever come out? SDN6 style?

The Saker 7.62 is 7.5" in length. So about 1/8" shorter than the SDN6.

Ah.... I was reading AAC's length added stats which is 6.1". What is the 7.62 saker length added?

[Henry Graham]

The Trifecta flash hider or brake is 2.55" in length so when mounted the Saker 7.62 adds about 5" to that length. I do not know how AAC calculates their length added. Using a plain muzzle or A2 flash hider as the reference would change the calculated length.

[1slow01Z71]

I cant find the trifecta muzzle brake anywhere, am I overlooking it? Id want a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for my AR.

[beanfield33]

The Trifecta flash hider or brake is 2.55" in length so when mounted the Saker 7.62 adds about 5" to that length. I do not know how AAC calculates their length added. Using a plain muzzle or A2 flash hider as the reference would change the calculated length.

Send me one and I'll measure the mounted difference between both.

[Veritas]

Henry,

Any idea how long before the 51T mounts become available for the Saker 7.62?

Thanks

51 tooth mounts are shipping now. The Saker 7.62 uses the same MAAD mounts as the Saker 5.56.

Are you guys still making a YHM Phantom adapter for it?

Is that the "Y-Mount" posted on the webpage?

[wacki]

The Trifecta flash hider or brake is 2.55" in length so when mounted the Saker 7.62 adds about 5" to that length. I do not know how AAC calculates their length added. Using a plain muzzle or A2 flash hider as the reference would change the calculated length.

Ok, now I'm very curious as to how AAC does the mathmagics. Can someone w/ a SDN6 measure theirs? Is the AAC can reflexing back onto the the bbl?


Saker = 7.5” oal - 0.8" threaded bbl overlap / insertion = 6.7" length added.
SDN6 = 7.625" oal - 0.8" threaded bbl overlap / insertion = 6.825" length added ??!?!?!?

I'm not sure how AAC gets to 6.1" length added unless they are reflexing the can.

My saker is in jail but I've got a MAAD mount and calipers on my desk. Looks like 0.8" insertion and the trifecta hider goes nearly flush with the back of the compression mount.

[John Titsworth]

$1,300 for a 139dB 7.62MM silencer?

[wacki]

$1,300 for a 139dB 7.62MM silencer?

I call it a win.

SilencerCo says 137 dB and NOT 139 dB.

That said SilencerCo marketing specs puts it an inch and a half shorter and 7 dB quieter than the 7.62 SD. Plunky doesn't have any stats on the shorter SDN6 but the AAC website says that has 25 dB reduction. A 20" remington 700 rifle meters in at 165.4 dB so suppressed with the AAC SDN6 marketing specs puts it at 140.4 dB. Going by what little info I have, this can appears to be an improvement upon it's target competitor from the tech spec point of view.

Long story short is these stats look good to me for an all around do-everything suppressor. It falls in the SDN6 niche and takes it further. If you want bolt action quiet go Specwar and Harvester. (sticking to same company)

SilencerCo positioned this can to attack a difference niche than their SpecWar & Harvester which is the right decision from a business / marketing standpoint. They are attacking the SDN6 which seems to be the dominant AR patter suppressor on arfcom and elsewhere. Why? Because it's the "do everything" suppressor. This saker will be a huge hit.

The Liberty Chaotic will be competing here as well. A short can that will work on 5.56, 308 and 300 BLK. It lacks the gee whiz gadgetry but will be selling at about half the cost.

[JasonM]

Ok, now I'm very curious as to how AAC does the mathmagics. Can someone w/ a SDN6 measure theirs? Is the AAC can reflexing back onto the the bbl?

AAC has traditionally done their measurements as length added versus an A2 hider… so it's not length added past the bare muzzle, it's a number that is generally around .6" or so shorter than a "length added from bare muzzle" would be.

[57fairlane]

$1,300 for a 139dB 7.62MM silencer?

SilencerCo has stated before that the hoplon blast baffle doesn't help reduction as it is slanted away from the muzzle.

The design and material choice was strictly from a longevity point of view.

I'm sure it would drop a little if it had a standard-type cone facing in towards the muzzle.

[Abiqua]

$1,300 for a 139dB 7.62MM silencer?

SilencerCo has stated before that the hoplon blast baffle doesn't help reduction as it is slanted away from the muzzle.

The design and material choice was strictly from a longevity point of view.

I'm sure it would drop a little if it had a standard-type cone facing in towards the muzzle.

From SilCo's website, emphasis added:

Hoplon baffle reduces harmful erosion (available on Saker556 model only)

[wacki]

I'd love to know why they dropped the hoplon. Not helpful in 308 due to more complete gunpowder burn over 5.56?

[Bendersquint]

I'd love to know why they dropped the hoplon. Not helpful in 308 due to more complete gunpowder burn over 5.56?

My WAG is that there is far less volume of fire and less rapid fire in a 7.62 can.

I personally haven't seen a worn out 30 cal can(aside from .gov/.mil).

I have seen MANY MANY worn out 556 cans though.

You don't see a ton of ammo wasters in 30 cal(not talking 300BLK).

The Hoplon takes up a bunch of space and may not have had enough benefit shown for the needs of the can.

Everything is a balancing act based on the objectives for a specific production model.

Just my guess as to why.