General silencer discussion. If you want to talk about a specific silenced rifle or pistol, it is best to do that in the rifle or pistol section for that brand.
He's very right in that assuming anything about a can that is not even out is foolish. We have every reason to believe that the 7.62 Saker will be great, but we don't know anything. I like what I've seen with the 5.56 version, but I wish there were more real world reviews and tests.
Silencerco has done a lot to earn people's business and they'll continue to.
Surefire makes an excellent product across the board, with easily the best QD system out there, but they've never put absolute dB reduction as the number one design objective.
There's no "perfect" with this industry, you weigh what's most important to you and pick something.
The Specwar is actually their "hard use" rifle can. The Saker's main claim to fame is its modularity.
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1slow01Z71 wrote:f I didnt know any better I'd think you have stock in surefire.
And if I didn't know any better I would think you were short selling it.
You are new here, you should have been around a few years ago when I was throwing SF under every bus I could find. Now I am just trying to be fair.
You sole criteria seems to be dB reduction and I get that. SF will never win that one. I bet it is not even in the top 5 for design criteria. They will probably never win price either. But many of the other things they do, they do very well.
No to be honest in qd cans my main criteria is the quality of the mount after my dealings with my personal yhm can and fixing my buddys 51t can. After that I was soured on qd cans which is why I was actually xontemplating dropping rhe coin on a 7.62 mini surefire until the 7.62 saker was finally announced.
Silencerco has already done the db testing on the 7.62 saker and multiple tests have shown their results to be close to independent testing so I trust it. IMO the saker mount is better than the surefire in that it does not use a ratcheting latch and it can onlt index one way guaranteeing repeatability. Add to the fact that with swapable modules you can use any of the popular mounts or go direct thread I see no downside. A couple of the hog guides here in TX have hosted the silco guys who broughr the saker along and all were impressed as well. The absolute "proof in the pudding" is yet to come but I'd say there is plenty of evidence to suggest it is going to be every bit as good as its little brother.
Im a fan of works as well which is why I do not consider surefire to be in that category anymore. They use to hang their hat on the quality of their qd mounts and toughness. The specwar ASR mount is damn near as good and the can is every bit as tough. The saker MAAD mount is better than surefires and if the trend continues will be as tough as its surefire counterpart.
Just my educated opinion mixed in with a bit of firsthand experience.
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Guys, it was a fun video, obviously meant to be fun and provide a look at an upcoming new silencer.
Like renegade said, if you have been there you know where it is.
The silencer is surefire. It feels like a surefire. Not heavy, not titanium light either, but it feels right on the end of that barrel. It didn't seem heavy.
The mount does what it is supposed to do like any surefire mount.
The can, well . . . It sounded good to my uncalibrated ear and I heard both subs and supers out of it.
Kudu22 wrote:The location was a ranch in TX that we are part of a long standing, fun industry gathering where we bring out new R&D toys and let everyone play with them and everyone kills a ton of hogs. It is a good time to have others evaluate new products and throw back some good whiskeys.
He's very right in that assuming anything about a can that is not even out is foolish. We have every reason to believe that the 7.62 Saker will be great, but we don't know anything. I like what I've seen with the 5.56 version, but I wish there were more real world reviews and tests.
Silencerco has done a lot to earn people's business and they'll continue to.
Surefire makes an excellent product across the board, with easily the best QD system out there, but they've never put absolute dB reduction as the number one design objective.
There's no "perfect" with this industry, you weigh what's most important to you and pick something.
The Specwar is actually their "hard use" rifle can. The Saker's main claim to fame is its modularity.
When I was deciding on a .30 can a short while ago, db reduction, durability, and ability to handle the occasional magnum loads along with a super-easy to use attachment system that stays tight were my main criteria and I bought accordingly. Weight was not a factor that weighed heavily (HA!) in my decision as I'm a manly man.
I had the SOCOM762-Mini out there as well. It was a few of us shooting side by side but turned the MINI over to a guy that got out of a SEAL team a few months earlier because his suppressor hadn't cleared. He was shooting a 14.5" 5.56 with a brake and we just couldn't have that nonsense going on anymore. I honestly didn't think of doing more side by side testing after that.
