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9mm can

Post by themonk » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:00 pm

Looking for a 9mm can to go on a few GLOCKs. You guys have any recommendations?

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Re: 9mm can

Post by wmdaniel70 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:04 pm

Octane 9 HD, hands down!

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Re: 9mm can

Post by Emilio » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:31 pm

No doubt the Octane. :!:
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Re: 9mm can

Post by rimshaker » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:08 am

Consider the Octane 45. Then you can use it on even MORE Glocks.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by themonk » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:24 am

Octane was not on my radar. What are the advantages of the Octane over the Osprey?

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Re: 9mm can

Post by delta9mda » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:53 am

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Post by domestique » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:18 am

themonk wrote:Octane was not on my radar. What are the advantages of the Octane over the Osprey?

User serviceable. You can take the baffle stack out and clean it. You can also fit the Octane under handguards (if you are into that).

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Re: 9mm can

Post by MJF1911 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:34 am

Octane is definitely the top can out there. Osprey if you only shoot jacketed bullets and don't want to put elevated sights on your pistols.
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Re: 9mm can

Post by Emilio » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:59 pm

themonk wrote:Octane was not on my radar. What are the advantages of the Octane over the Osprey?
You can't clean the Osprey yourself. ( stupid) Octane is stronger , easy to clean and more versatile . No brainer

Only bad thing is Silencerco ripped off Henry/SWR who made it.( so it's hard to recommend anymore. )

The Osprey still blocks half the sights so no real advantage, the Octane sounds great on 22 and best for lead or dirty ammo or even shooting wet. ( huge advantage)
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Re: 9mm can

Post by jh1990 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Emilio wrote:
themonk wrote:Octane was not on my radar. What are the advantages of the Octane over the Osprey?
You can't clean the Osprey yourself. ( stupid) Octane is stronger , easy to clean and more versatile . No brainer

Only bad thing is Silencerco ripped off Henry/SWR who made it.( so it's hard to recommend anymore. )

The Osprey still blocks half the sights so no real advantage, the Octane sounds great on 22 and best for lead or dirty ammo or even shooting wet. ( huge advantage)
They didn't rip off anyone. They bought the company and the designs. There was no wrong doing.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by eastern_hunter » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:01 pm

Octane 9 and Octane 45 cans are both wonderful cans ... and I do have both!

Can't even nit-pick them.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by themonk » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:22 pm

Wow, I am glad I asked. Thanks guys!!

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Re: 9mm can

Post by kassenz » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:42 pm

The popular local suppressor guy, Chip at Cascade Armory recommends those Silencerco Octane's too
Stainless inside guts that form a liner under the aluminum tube, full auto rated.

I don't own a 9mm supressor yet. I'm no expert. I'm shopping for one too

Osprey is pretty sexy though.

I've been wanting a short Ti-Rant 45s. Works on 9mm, 40, or 45
Lots of pistons available. But only half the baffles are Stainless...
http://www.advanced-armament.com/Pistol_c_21.html

Liberty Mystic is worth a look.
Stainless, and no problem on a pistol or a 300 black AR rifle
http://libertycans.net/mystic/

If you want small, Brooks at Thompson makes a few tini, inexpensive, 9mm
http://www.thompsonmachine.net/?page_id=99

$350 9mm can with stainless innards.
http://www.huntertownarms.com/guardian9.php

So many choices....

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Re: 9mm can

Post by Emilio » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:04 am

jh1990 wrote:
They didn't rip off anyone. They bought the company and the designs. There was no wrong doing.
Do we have to pull up the original merger reply from Gary again?

They deceived , then fired Henry ( the golden goose) from the same new management that screwed up AAC . Both companies used to be it touch then went big corp.

What's not to love? your standards or are quit different than mine.
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Re: 9mm can

Post by Emilio » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:05 am

kassenz wrote:The popular local suppressor guy, Chip at Cascade Armory recommends those Silencerco Octane's too
Stainless inside guts that form a liner under the aluminum tube, full auto rated.

I don't own a 9mm supressor yet. I'm no expert. I'm shopping for one too

Osprey is pretty sexy though.

I've been wanting a short Ti-Rant 45s. Works on 9mm, 40, or 45
Lots of pistons available. But only half the baffles are Stainless...
http://www.advanced-armament.com/Pistol_c_21.html

Liberty Mystic is worth a look.
Stainless, and no problem on a pistol or a 300 black AR rifle
http://libertycans.net/mystic/

If you want small, Brooks at Thompson makes a few tini, inexpensive, 9mm
http://www.thompsonmachine.net/?page_id=99

$350 9mm can with stainless innards.
http://www.huntertownarms.com/guardian9.php

So many choices....


Take Huntertown off the list and look at the SWR O9 and Liberty.
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Re: 9mm can

Post by marcus99 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:10 am

Octane 9 for clean-ability and awesome support from manufacturer.
Tirant 9 for quietness and lightweight.
Mystic for versatility and ruggedness.

Those traits are not necessarily mutually exclusive between those suppressors. I'm just pointing out where I think each excels. And yes, I have shot all three pretty extensively.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by Flipz » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:03 am

Another +1 for the Octane.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by samson7x » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:21 am

Octane here as well...no complaints.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by laxguy59 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:43 am

I own a Hunter Town Arms Guardian 9, Osprey 45, and Octane 45

If you are always going to shoot jacketed rounds and only on semi auto handguns, then I would go with the Osprey. You'll never need to clean it, but you can have Silencerco clean it for free if you feel the need to in a few years.

If you want to shoot cast lead or plan to mount the can on rifles, then I suggest the Octane. Unlike the Tirant, the baffles are all stainless so there are more cleaning options. Also there are more mounting options for the Octane than almost any other can, 3 lug is also a plus.

The HTA Guardian 9 isn't really a bad can, I got mine for $239.99 and it is decently quiet, but a bit long. the new Guardian 9's are out now and I believe are more normal in length. for $100 you can upgrade the Guardian to all stainless baffles. Its a good value option, but mounts are limited and not easy to just buy online, you usually have to have a dealer order them and then wait on them.

The Tirant is selling for crazy cheap from many SOT's right now, but it has some aluminum baffles, no three lug, and no 5/8x24 mount. I just don't see where it excels anywhere.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by dtom29 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:20 pm

The Tirant excels because as marcus99 said "quietness and lightweight". The TiRant is takeapart, it is quiet (last I saw more quiet than the octane), and lighter than the Octane and the Mystic. I own both the Tirant and the Mystic, while you can use the Mystic on a pistol, and it's not bad, I bought it for BLK and my AKS-74U SBR. I would get the Liberty Infiniti as a pistol can over the Mystic. Love my TiRant.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by laxguy59 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:24 pm

dtom29 wrote:The Tirant excels because as marcus99 said "quietness and lightweight". The TiRant is takeapart, it is quiet (last I saw more quiet than the octane), and lighter than the Octane and the Mystic. I own both the Tirant and the Mystic, while you can use the Mystic on a pistol, and it's not bad, I bought it for BLK and my AKS-74U SBR. I would get the Liberty Infiniti as a pistol can over the Mystic. Love my TiRant.
Tirant 9: 8.6oz
Octane 9: 10.8 oz
Osprey 9: 9.8oz

It's at the point of arguing over a feather's difference.

As for suppression, between the Octane and Tirant they are really about tied. Meter numbers change with ammo, temp, and elevation. The averages between the two could be higher or lower than the other on any given day.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by marcus99 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:55 pm

laxguy59 wrote:As for suppression, between the Octane and Tirant they are really about tied. Meter numbers change with ammo, temp, and elevation. The averages between the two could be higher or lower than the other on any given day.
Have you shot an Octane9? Have you shot a Tirant9? Have you shot a Mystic? Have you shot them side-by-side on identical hosts using the same ammo? How about over a fairly extensive period of time, extending through various climates (40 degree winter to 80+ degree summer), on about half a dozen different hosts and over a dozen individual hosts? Have you also played with various ammo, including powders, primers, and bullets? Have you had a second set of ears there to compare your observations to?

Because I have.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by JOHN_E » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:53 am

Doesn't matter to me what a meter says, if my ears are ringing its too loud. I would suggest that the current Octane owners shoot a TiRant.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by rimshaker » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:35 am

marcus99 wrote:
laxguy59 wrote:As for suppression, between the Octane and Tirant they are really about tied. Meter numbers change with ammo, temp, and elevation. The averages between the two could be higher or lower than the other on any given day.
Have you shot an Octane9? Have you shot a Tirant9? Have you shot a Mystic? Have you shot them side-by-side on identical hosts using the same ammo? How about over a fairly extensive period of time, extending through various climates (40 degree winter to 80+ degree summer), on about half a dozen different hosts and over a dozen individual hosts? Have you also played with various ammo, including powders, primers, and bullets? Have you had a second set of ears there to compare your observations to?

Because I have.
I have both a Tirant 45 and Octane 45. And I can confidently say the Tirant performs a little better sound wise (according to my ears).

Did my ear testing on both 9mm and 45acp ammo; five different brands each. And used 3 different hosts total.

Tirant was much dirtier than the brand new Octane at the time... but my ears rang a few times with the Octane (9mm and 45). Never with the Tirant.

Tirant always had a pleasing lower tone. Octane has a sharper sound (maybe cause it was squeaky clean?). Hmmm, maybe K baffles really are better.

But regardless, will be mainly using the Octane more since cleaning is way easier, and has 5/8x24 mounts available.

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Re: 9mm can

Post by wacki » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:34 pm

I have octane 9 , 45 , liberty mystic and Osprey.

Octane 9 is my go to pistol can
Mystic on 300 BLK. 3 lug mount rocks!

Osprey is cool but not take apart. 45 is doable on 9mm but 9mm can is a noticeably better fit.

If I had liberty infinity it might compete against the Octane for pistols. Dunno.... Until you try.

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