Full metal jackets and suppressors

[soul_grind66]

I have been getting quite a bit of jacketting in my suppressor but the baffles are not showing signs of strikes. I am new to this forum and not sure if someone has already posted this before but I'm curious if this is normal or if my suppressor is in fact getting strikes from the full metal jackets in a 45

[mpallett]

I have been getting quite a bit of jacketting in my suppressor but the baffles are not showing signs of strikes. I am new to this forum and not sure if someone has already posted this before but I'm curious if this is normal or if my suppressor is in fact getting strikes from the full metal jackets in a 45

Are you sure it is jacketing? What ammo are you using? When I was doing development I found that some ammo would fill up the suppressor with stuff that appeared to be copper shavings, but they were not.

[soul_grind66]

It sure looks like copper jacket.... What did you determine yours was? The ammo I've been using is Winchester 230 grain full metal jackets

[mpallett]

It sure looks like copper jacket.... What did you determine yours was? The ammo I've been using is Winchester 230 grain full metal jackets

It is "something" in the Winchester White Box. Are you getting "good" WWB or are you getting it from Dicks or Wally world?

Try something else and see if you get it with them as well. At one point SWR recommended to NOT use WWB as it caused too much damage to the baffles.

[soul_grind66]

I hadn't heard that but it's good to know! It is the WWB from Walmart. I do have some other ammo that will try! Thank you for the help!!

[Bendersquint]

We see alot of damage from WWB 45 ammo as well. Looks like copper colored flakes but its not form the jacket its from the trash in the powder.

[HK45]

This is really depressing me.

First there's a thread on HKPro about suppressors damaging HK pistols and how only certain suppressors are
"approved" for use on HK pistols, now I hear I shouldn't use WWB in my MAC-10/45 with my Viper45.
I've got over 1500 rounds of WWB 230gr FMJ.

I don't know whether to ignore it all, or go crazy worrying about it.

[Bendersquint]

This is really depressing me.

First there's a thread on HKPro about suppressors damaging HK pistols and how only certain suppressors are
"approved" for use on HK pistols, now I hear I shouldn't use WWB in my MAC-10/45 with my Viper45.
I've got over 1500 rounds of WWB 230gr FMJ.

I don't know whether to ignore it all, or go crazy worrying about it.

If your baffles are anodized then that will protect them more than if they are raw!

[soul_grind66]

My first baffle is stainless then the rest are aluminum. How do I add a pic?

[Deathray]

Could you pull a bullet on one of those rounds and take a picture of the powder? Then could you burn the powder and take another photo of the residue?

I'm intrigued as to the origins of this stuff.

[Bendersquint]

Could you pull a bullet on one of those rounds and take a picture of the powder? Then could you burn the powder and take another photo of the residue?

I'm intrigued as to the origins of this stuff.

Powder residue is different between burned in open air and in an enclosed space, it makes the powder burn differently.

[Deathray]

I'm quite aware of that. However the origins of these pieces may be revealed even with a dissimilar burn, or even before burning.

Unless of course somebody wants to scoop some pieces up and send them to me so I can play analytical chemist and try to figure out what it is.

[mpallett]

This is really depressing me.

First there's a thread on HKPro about suppressors damaging HK pistols and how only certain suppressors are
"approved" for use on HK pistols, now I hear I shouldn't use WWB in my MAC-10/45 with my Viper45.
I've got over 1500 rounds of WWB 230gr FMJ.

I don't know whether to ignore it all, or go crazy worrying about it.

I wouldn't worry about the HK. Any major brand manufacture that has been doing this a while should be fine.

Don't worry too much about the 45 either. Just watch it. If you start seeing excessive erosion, back of on the WWB.

As I recall, it is the stuff from Walmart. Not stuff you would buy from a gun shop. I believe they are different as Walmart demands low pricing, etc.

[soul_grind66]

Well I was going to post a pic of the junk that came out of the can with the WWB ammo but it says it has to be a photo that is already online.

[mpallett]

Well I was going to post a pic of the junk that came out of the can with the WWB ammo but it says it has to be a photo that is already online.

Email it to me and I will post it.


matt@"removethis"pallett.com

[JasonM]

Well I was going to post a pic of the junk that came out of the can with the WWB ammo but it says it has to be a photo that is already online.

Email it to me and I will post it.


matt@"removethis"pallett.com

I would have guessed it was something like matt@"fireupthesmokerforthepatsgame"pallet.com

[mpallett]

I would have guessed it was something like matt@"fireupthesmokerforthepatsgame"pallet.com

You know you want some. The beef ribs came out great.

and I resemble that comment . It is new, I'm cooking through everything. I'll slow down.

[mpallett]

So here is the picture:



This wasn't the full resolution photo so I can't zoom up into it to really see.

Some of that looks like Jacket separation, some of it is the power junk I was expecting. Some of it could just be vapor like deposits on junk.

How do the baffles look?

Try some other ammo.

[soul_grind66]

Well the first baffle is stainless and shows marks and then some of the aluminum baffles show a little pitting that looks to be from in burned powder but that's all I can see.

[mpallett]

Well the first baffle is stainless and shows marks and then some of the aluminum baffles show a little pitting that looks to be from in burned powder but that's all I can see.

Where did you find all the crap ?

[soul_grind66]

It was all in the first two chambers

[Bendersquint]

Looks like some jacket in there to me, seen similar in Tridents and Evo's.

[soul_grind66]

Well I'm glad to hear that it wasn't just my can that does it! It doesn't seem to be hurting accuracy any so maybe I shouldn't worry about it too much and try different ammo till I find some that are better! Maybe even reload my own.

[MJF1911]

That is definitely jacket material. Either Winchester has cheapened up the bullet by just plating it or your rifling is cutting through. WWB used to have a nice thick jacketed bullet.

I know the Remington stuff in the green and yellow box still has a good quality bullet, you might try that stuff. The UMC stuff in the green and white box might be a cheaper bullet.

[Emilio]

I might have noticed this reloading.